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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 18 January 2017

18 Jan 2017 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Highlands and Islands Enterprise
Brown, Keith SNP Clackmannanshire and Dunblane Watch on SPTV

In addition to the points that Gail Ross, Kate Forbes, Richard Lochhead and others have made to me about what the structure beneath the strategic board should be and in relation to each of the agencies, there have been a number of other proposals. Some have appeared in the press, where there has been talk of supervisory boards and advisory boards, as there are in other countries; there are suggestions from those who are currently undertaking the review, which will be led by Professor Lorne Crerar, the chair of HIE; and we have had suggestions from members of the different agencies.

So, yes, we have the ability to look at the nature of the decision-making powers that are exercised by the tier between the strategic board and the agencies, if you like, and I spoke to Lorne Crerar this morning to ensure that his review, which has already begun, takes account of the Government’s open mind in that regard.

I am more than happy to come back to the chamber once we have that governance review—not phase 2 of the enterprise and skills review, although I will be happy to come back with that as well, of course. I recognise the interest expressed in both the motion and the amendment and in the discourse that I have had with individual members.

We recognise that the four agencies have strengths and that, as good as they are, we must always seek to improve them. I recognise the success of HIE over a number of years that Donald Cameron talked about—it has had substantial success; indeed, one reason why the South of Scotland members have championed having something similar in their area is that they recognise HIE’s success.

We must build on that in future. The additional support that HIE needs in respect of internationalisation and, perhaps, additional powers for local decision making should be an outcome of the review. The review should also focus on how we get the agencies to work together. It is a question of building on success, engaging with the agencies and delivering more for Scotland.

This debate confirms that all of us in the chamber recognise that HIE is a success story. As has been mentioned, the transformation of the Highlands and Islands over the past 51 years is testament to that. However, it should be recognised that the status quo is not an option, not least given the comments that Donald Cameron made. We are always looking to see how we can improve things.

The future of HIE is secure; it is not being abolished.

I look forward to the rest of the debate.

I move amendment S5M-03438.2 , to leave out from “opposes” to end and insert:

“recognises the vital work that Highlands and Islands Enterprise (HIE) carries out for businesses and communities across the Highlands and Islands: welcomes the Scottish Government's commitment to retain HIE, its legal status, chief executive, management team, local base and local decision-making powers, and expects that the Governance Review being undertaken by the chair of HIE, Professor Lorne Crerar, and others will provide for the work of HIE to be supported by, and more closely aligned with, the other agencies within the Enterprise and Skills Review to drive the changes needed to further improve the economy of the Highlands and Islands and the rest of Scotland.”

15:29  
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-03438, in the name of Donald Cameron, on retaining the Highlands and Islands Enterprise board. I call Mr...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Donald Cameron Con
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The Cabinet Secretary for Economy, Jobs and Fair Work (Keith Brown) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Donald Cameron Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Keith Brown to speak to and move amendment S5M-03438.2. You have up to six minutes, please, cabinet secretary. 15:23
The Cabinet Secretary for Economy, Jobs and Fair Work (Keith Brown) SNP
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Keith Brown SNP
I am sorry, but are we not in the pattern of not taking interventions? I recognise Liz Smith’s interest, though, so I will take her intervention.
Liz Smith Con
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Keith Brown SNP
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Gail Ross (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
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Keith Brown SNP
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Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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Kate Forbes SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Rhoda Grant Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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Kate Forbes SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Edward Mountain Con
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Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
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Rhoda Grant Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Kate Forbes SNP
With pleasure.
Rhoda Grant Lab
Is the member actually saying that the board has no purpose at all? Why are we setting up an overreaching board if that is the case?
Kate Forbes SNP
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David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
Time is tight. I ask for speeches of up to three and a half minutes, please, or members at the end will lose their speaking time. 15:47