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Meeting of the Parliament 08 December 2016

08 Dec 2016 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Disability Delivery Plan
Rowley, Alex Lab Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

We just heard Kate Forbes talk about the constituent who came to her office. A constituent of mine spoke to me just last week, along with his mother. He has been suffering from mental health issues and is getting support from NHS Fife, but his benefits have been pulled and he has been told that he is fit for work. There is case after case like that.

Adam Tomkins needs to look at the evidence from organisations that support and advocate on behalf of disabled people. He and Ruth Davidson’s Tories in Scotland can play around with questions about who did what when in power, but the fact is that right now the welfare reforms that a Tory Government is putting in place are having a detrimental impact on disabled people and others in Scotland.

Mark Griffin referred to the Joseph Rowntree Foundation report that came out yesterday and it is worth repeating what he said. He said that 26 per cent of people who are in poverty in Scotland are disabled, which is the second highest such rate in the UK. As the JRF has said,

“modern poverty is also increasingly linked with disability.”

If, for whatever reason, someone who is working hard in life, paying their taxes and getting on becomes ill and cannot continue to work, we can be sure of one thing—that the current Tory Government will penalise them, make them feel much worse and, in some cases, drive them towards starvation.

I turn to the Scottish Government and the issues that Inclusion Scotland raises in its briefing. It talks about social care being

“part of the essential infrastructure that is required to enable disabled people to participate in family, community and economic life”,

but it goes on to talk about

“Cuts to social care packages, whether as a result of ... eligibility criteria or reductions in”

services directly to people. That is a key point. It is great to have strategies such as “A Fairer Scotland for Disabled People”, and I commend everyone who has been involved in that, but what we need in Scotland is joined-up government.

As a result of massive cuts to local government funding, health and social care packages are being cut. We are beginning to see that, because one of the first things that happen when a budget is under pressure is that the eligibility criteria are changed. Suddenly, people who were previously eligible for the care packages no longer are. That is one of the techniques that are used, and it has an impact on people.

In the area where I live, it is not just the numbers of people who are trying to get out of hospital—that number stands at around 90—who are waiting for a care package, in a situation that is described as bed blocking. There are massive waiting lists of people who need assessments to get to the point of receiving a care package. When they have been assessed, there is another waiting list.

Our health and social care services are not being properly funded. Community care was never about care on the cheap. I do not doubt the Government’s commitment to trying to deliver such services, but it needs to recognise that we need joined-up care and joined-up government. Unless we fund health and social care, there will be a massive gap, and disabled people will pay a higher price because of how that goes.

The Inclusion Scotland briefing also talks about care charges, which have been one of the answers to the cuts in local authority budgets in many parts of Scotland. In Fife Council, under the minister’s party, home care charges were put up from £4 per week to £11 an hour. When the next administration came in—it included me—we abolished the charges, but that is not true across Scotland.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-02948, in the name of Jeane Freeman, entitled “Creating a Fairer Scotland: Our Disability Delivery Plan”....
The Minister for Social Security (Jeane Freeman) SNP
I am pleased to open the debate on “A Fairer Scotland for Disabled People: Our Delivery Plan to 2021 for the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Perso...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
We are supportive of the introduction of a framework for families who are affected by disability, but the title suggests that it might not include young peop...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Yes, I can. The strategy will be worked through with disabled people and people who care for children with disabilities. It will include all such children, b...
Adam Tomkins (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I welcome the fact that this debate is being signed, which is something that I hope we can do much more often in Parliament, and indeed in public life in Sco...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Adam Tomkins Con
I am happy to give way to Sandra White.
Sandra White SNP
I thank the member and hope that we can continue with the agreement that he has mentioned. Does he agree with the UN report that mentions that the UK Governm...
Adam Tomkins Con
No, I do not, and I shall explain why in a few moments. It is not a matter of law making alone, but also of public expenditure. Under the Conservatives, th...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
Will the member take an intervention?
Adam Tomkins Con
No, I want to develop the point. The figures are even worse in Scotland, where the disability employment rate is a shocking 42 per cent. That is an injustic...
Jeane Freeman SNP
Will Mr Tomkins acknowledge what I also said yesterday about the Westminster cross-party working group’s assessment of how long it would take the UK Governme...
Adam Tomkins Con
I agree that it is taking too long to close the disability employment gap, and that is why our amendment welcomes not only the Scottish Government’s fairer S...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Presiding Officer and the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body for their good offices in again making the Parliament an exemplar in the provisio...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to open speeches of around six minutes, please. We have some time in hand, so I can give extra time for interventions or for anyone who has something...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. It is nice to know that I have a wee bit of time today. I welcome this debate and I am glad to take part in it. Many members w...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
I apologise to you, Presiding Officer, and to the minister for being late. It was nothing to do with disability—I just cannot read a watch. I have met a num...
Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
I, too, thank the hundreds of people who responded to the fairer Scotland consultation. One of the most important lines in Jeane Freeman’s motion is the dete...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
As the minister did, I thank everyone who was involved in the consultation and in the production of the fairer Scotland report, which we absolutely support, ...
Adam Tomkins Con
Does the member accept the fact that £6 billion a year more is being spent on disability benefits in the United Kingdom than was the case when the Labour Par...
Alex Rowley Lab
We just heard Kate Forbes talk about the constituent who came to her office. A constituent of mine spoke to me just last week, along with his mother. He has ...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I, too, am concerned about care charges, which is why I spoke in the members’ business debate on them earlier this week. Mr Rowley mentioned Fife Council. Is...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
I cannot take another speech. Mr Rowley, you are in your last minute—you need to finish in the next 30 seconds.
Alex Rowley Lab
I will do so. Having been proud to serve as a Labour councillor over many years, I just say to Joan McAlpine that the fact is that this year local councils a...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the publication of “A Fairer Scotland for Disabled People: Our Delivery Plan to 2021 for the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons wit...
Adam Tomkins Con
Will Sandra White take an intervention on that point?
Sandra White SNP
I will—if the member will first let me finish my point, please. How will taking £30 a week from disabled people who are moving from DLA to PIP help them?
Adam Tomkins Con
Would Sandra White care to reflect on there being 360,000 disabled people in work in the United Kingdom who were not in work two years ago? Is that an achiev...
Sandra White SNP
Mr Tomkins used the word “condemn”. He should speak to disabled people, because then he will see exactly who is being condemned by the UK Government. I will ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Does Sandra White agree that cutting three of the four jobcentres in the east end of Glasgow is not going to help disabled people?