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Meeting of the Parliament 22 November 2016

22 Nov 2016 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Adoption and Permanence
Smith, Elaine Lab Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

Like others, I welcome the first adoption week Scotland as something that is much needed to raise awareness of the specific issues faced by children who are adopted and by families when they add new members to their family. It is also a chance to celebrate adoption. Nothing can be more important than caring for our children, and those who are foster carers, kinship carers and adoptive parents contribute immensely to our society. It is therefore absolutely right that we take this opportunity to thank them all.

Today, the focus is on adoption and the generous compassion that helps the family, the adopted child and the whole of society. As the minister did at the beginning of the debate, we should, of course, thank the voluntary organisations that work in the field. He mentioned some of them, but there are others, such as St Margaret’s Children and Family Care Society in Glasgow. Of course, all the national health service, local authority and other public sector staff who are involved also deserve to be thanked.

We all know about the problems that young people who have been adopted can face before their adoption. Sadly, those problems can continue after they have been adopted. We do not have comparable data for Scotland, but we know that the majority of children who are adopted in England have suffered from abuse and/or neglect prior to their adoption. By increasing the chances of a child staying with their adoptive family and feeling welcomed into the everyday structures that many other children take for granted, such as school, sports and friendship groups, we can ensure that they are given the best chance to flourish even when they might not have had the best start in life. That would be the fresh start that they very much deserve.

We should reflect on the problems that children in care face and we should recognise the advances that have been made in recent years in assisting them, particularly with regard to increasing the age limit so that they can stay on with families.

However, a great deal more needs to be done. For example, we know that children in care are four times more likely to suffer a mental health difficulty. As such, I welcome the Scottish Government’s indication—which Fulton MacGregor mentioned—that it will carry out a root-and-branch review of Scotland’s care system. I hope that the experiences of children who have gone through care will be included at the heart of the review. Perhaps, in summing up, the minister can give us a bit more detail about the nature of the review and say when it will begin.

We know that, unfortunately, the state has not always been a great guardian for many children. We know that children in care are less likely than their peers to do well at school and that some have experienced further neglect and abuse while in care. Any future review of the care system in Scotland has to take those issues into account and must reflect on the reality that getting as many kids into adoptive families as possible is a beneficial outcome for all. After all, we know that children who are adopted from care do very well compared to those who remain in care, as Adoption UK said in the briefing that members received before the debate.

If we look after children well and build up their opportunities, we will construct a solid foundation on which Scotland and its children can flourish. Therefore, I am pleased to support Monica Lennon’s amendment; I am also pleased that the Government has indicated that it will also do so. The amendment reflects some of the specific reforms that we should pursue in order to improve the lives of families who adopt. To achieve that, adoption will need to be a more appealing prospect for families and hopeful new parents. By increasing the support that is provided to those who adopt children from care, we will gradually see increased numbers of children taken out of care and into welcoming permanent homes where they can feel that they belong.

As we know, only 500 children were adopted in Scotland last year. To improve that, we need to focus on the three things raised by my comrade Monica Lennon. First, every adoptive family must have the right to support when they need it. Secondly, every adopted child must have the right to additional support in school. Thirdly—taking into consideration what the minister said in his opening speech—every adopted child must be given quick access to child and adolescent mental health services. Parity for adopted children with looked-after children is important.

Many members have made the point that this is a consensual debate. However, it is important to note the reality that local authorities have to face. On top of cuts made in previous years, local government funding is being cut again this year, and we have only recently seen the announcement of an end to the 10-year council tax freeze. With that in mind, it will be no easy task for local authorities to find extra money to support adopted children and adoptive families. That reality cannot be ignored—local authorities need to be properly resourced.

In taking forward improvements, we should learn from the process that took place in the previous parliamentary session, in which policy was informed by those who experienced care—we should do the same for those who are adopted. I imagine that very few of us know first hand about the unique experiences of those who have been adopted and/or were in care. That expertise needs to inform the way forward—the people who understand adoption on a personal level are a fundamental resource for us.

There are two cases—if I can call them that—that I know about and will mention. When I was a young kid, I witnessed a young child being told by other children that they were adopted. I was personally affected by that; I can remember it very well. Such incidents can have an on-going negative effect and show that families may need support in explaining adoption to children and that children should be able to access their own support if they need it.

I also know of an adopted child from a Catholic family who felt special and who was delighted that they had been specifically chosen by their family. I mention that they are from a Catholic family is because they said, at a very young age, that they felt lucky to have three mothers: their birth mother, their real mum and Our Lady. That was obviously a much better experience for the child.

We can be in no doubt that family life for both the child and the parents can be greatly enhanced by adoption. The state has a duty to make that as easy as possible for them and, in turn, that will benefit our society.

16:09  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-02624, in the name of Mark McDonald, on adoption and permanence in Scotland. 14:34
The Minister for Childcare and Early Years (Mark McDonald) SNP
Every child deserves the best possible start in life and to grow up feeling and being loved, wanted, safe and secure. All across Scotland, thousands of adopt...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to speak in today’s debate on the motion in Mark McDonald’s name on adoption and permanent solutions for looked-after children. Sco...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
I welcome the minister’s motion and Labour’s amendment, both of which will be supported by the Conservatives. As we have heard, this week is adoption week, ...
Mark McDonald SNP
I am grateful to Jeremy Balfour for highlighting that point. Obviously, I cannot comment on the case that he has cited, but if he writes to me with the detai...
Jeremy Balfour Con
I thank the minister for that. We need to look at the situation. Sometimes, meetings are arranged by social workers but do not fit for the family or are canc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
We move to open debate, with speeches of around six minutes. I have some time in hand, so time can be given for interventions. 15:03
Jenny Gilruth (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP) SNP
I have friends who were adopted and friends who have adopted children. One of the most selfless acts that any human being can do is to commit to taking on le...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
This has been a good debate and it is good that it takes place in a special week. The four preceding speeches have all been excellent and considered, which i...
Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
It gives me great pleasure to speak in the debate. This is an area in which I have some experience and I hope to use that to contribute to a positive, cross-...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Most speakers have commented on how consensual and positive this afternoon’s debate has been. Too often, we tend to use those words as a euphemism for dull, ...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
I will start on a happy note. Two close friends of mine who are in a same-sex marriage have just gone through the adoption process and hope to welcome their ...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I will support the Government motion and the Labour amendment at decision time. It is true that we are enjoying a consensual debate, and rightly so; I am gra...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
Presiding Officer, “Everything that needs to be said has already been said. But since no one was listening, everything must be said again.” That strikes me...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
I start by recognising Aberdeenshire Council’s achievement of its aims for early permanence for children who need a caring and stable home and family. The Ab...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I am pleased to take part in today’s debate. As we mark the first ever adoption week Scotland, I pay tribute to the individuals and couples in the Lothian re...
Elaine Smith (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Like others, I welcome the first adoption week Scotland as something that is much needed to raise awareness of the specific issues faced by children who are ...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the debate, which is being held during the first-ever adoption week Scotland. I also welcome the consensual points that have been made about the be...
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I declare an interest as a local councillor with Argyll and Bute Council and as a member of the council’s corporate parenting board, which looks after more t...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
At the recent SNP conference, along with many others—about 3,000, I think—I was profoundly moved when the First Minister addressed the issue of care-experien...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
I am disappointed that Maurice Corry is not in the chamber for the closing speeches. I have had no notice or request from him. Perhaps that message will be c...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Much has been made this afternoon of the positive, consensual tone—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Bear with me a minute. I see that I have failed to name Miles Briggs, who is also not in the chamber. No doubt that will be conveyed to him, too. My apolog...
Daniel Johnson Lab
Not at all, although you have slightly broken up the pace of my humour.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sure that you can recover it. You are a stylish gentleman.
Daniel Johnson Lab
I will stumble through that again. There has been a positive, consensual tone to the debate, and if that is different, I suggest that it is because we are p...
Ross Thomson (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I start by declaring an interest as a councillor on Aberdeen City Council and, therefore, as a corporate parent. I echo the comments of members who have welc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am so glad that I gave you that extra minute—you squeezed the juice right out of it. 16:47
Mark McDonald SNP
A number of members have spoken about the consensual nature of today’s debate. Although that is a fair point to make, there is rather a lot to which I need t...
Liz Smith Con
Given the minister’s comment about the need to publicise all the facts that people need in relation to adoption, which he rightly said is not easy to do a ts...