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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 02 November 2016

02 Nov 2016 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Health Service

It is fair to say that the NHS is having to deal with the impact that Tory austerity has had on many of our most vulnerable citizens, and that this Parliament has had to spend money to mitigate the impact of many damaging cuts. It would have been nice to see some of those constructive proposals in Donald Cameron’s motion.

It is absolutely right to criticise the Government for doing too little to shift the balance of care. The Royal College of Nursing has called the pace of change painfully slow. However—although it does not feel comfortable for any of us to say this—we need to think carefully about our approach to service redesign. Audit Scotland says that NHS boards face significant

“political resistance to proposed changes to local services.”

I accept that there have been issues with public consultations on some of the service changes that health boards have proposed. Part of the problem, as Audit Scotland has pointed out, is that neither the Government nor individual health boards have done enough to open up meaningful public conversations about the long-term direction of service delivery. However, the Parliament has an incredibly important role to play in that regard. We must debate the issues broadly, openly and collaboratively, wherever possible.

The British Medical Association put a very blunt statement to us when it said:

“there needs to be a significant increase in the investment to close the funding gap. If there cannot be a commitment to more resources then a range of realistic future health service models using current planned resources must be set out.”

The truth is that we need both. We need sustainable investment in our health services and we need to think about future health service models that meet people’s complex needs.

Audit Scotland has asked the Government to model the cost of implementing the national clinical strategy. I want that modelling to consider the contribution that health services make to local communities and local economies, because such consideration has been lacking so far. We cannot have a fully informed debate about the impact of service changes without understanding the economic and social role that health services play in different parts of Scotland.

We need to ensure that there is equitable access to primary healthcare. I point out that yesterday’s report—

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-02232, in the name of Donald Cameron, on the national health service in Scotland. 16:21
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
The subject of the debate is, of course, Audit Scotland’s report “NHS in Scotland 2016”. The report is now a week old. The picture that it paints of the NHS ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I thank Donald Cameron for giving way. Does he accept that shifting of services out of acute hospitals into the community might make targets harder to reach—...
Donald Cameron Con
As I was saying, in 2008, Audit Scotland said that despite the Government’s policy of shifting the balance of care closer to home, there was “no evidence av...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Sport (Shona Robison) SNP
Audit Scotland has provided a balanced overview of the NHS and has made several recommendations, which we accept in full. As we consider the report, we have...
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Shona Robison SNP
I will, in a second. The strategy is founded in our twin approaches of investment and driving reform. It underpins our 2020 vision, and will be delivered th...
John Scott Con
On transformational reform, are you aware that at Ayr hospital between April and September this year there were a total of 7,594 missed appointments, which r...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I ask members to speak through the chair.
Shona Robison SNP
I agree with John Scott that missed appointments are a challenge that we need to address. Boards are looking at ways of addressing that challenge through tex...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Can you wind up, please?
Shona Robison SNP
As I bring my remarks to a close—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You will have to stop. I am sorry—we are very tight for time.
Shona Robison SNP
I move amendment S5M-02232.3, to leave out from first “believes” to end and insert: “recognises that health and care services face increasing demand pressur...
Anas Sarwar (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the cabinet secretary to the chamber. It is nice to see her twice in one day, with nobody to hide behind. Last week, Audit Scotland published its ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. It is a tight four minutes for speakers; I will try to give time for interventions, but please make them short. 16:42
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
Our NHS workforce does an amazing job. What is clear is that none of the criticism of the performance of NHS Scotland is aimed at the work that staff do to d...
Shona Robison SNP
Will the member give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member is in his last minute, I am afraid, so unless it is very short—
Miles Briggs Con
I will give way if it is very quick.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Very short.
Shona Robison SNP
Does Miles Briggs recognise the £200 million investment in the elective centres, the aim of which is absolutely to address the future requirement of his cons...
Miles Briggs Con
I recognise that, but the issue is the impact on healthcare in Lothian. As I said, constituents are coming to see me who have been told that they have to wai...
Ash Denham (Edinburgh Eastern) (SNP) SNP
There are significant challenges facing our beloved NHS. Some of them are very serious and will require new ways of working, some will require creativity and...
Miles Briggs Con
Does the member acknowledge that, since 2010, the UK Conservative Government has provided £1.46 billion in Barnett consequential funding for our health servi...
Ash Denham SNP
That money has been passed on, but would the member want the Scottish Government to follow the example of the Conservative Government in England, which has l...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I declare an interest as my wife and daughter both work in the NHS. No member in the chamber should be under any illusion that the publication of the Audit ...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I thank Audit Scotland for its far-reaching and detailed report and for the crucial recommendations that it has made. The report rightly criticises the Gove...
Donald Cameron Con
I do not accept the charge that we have not produced proposals. We produced a 15-point plan, which contains a number of ideas, and we have tried to create a ...
Alison Johnstone Green
It is fair to say that the NHS is having to deal with the impact that Tory austerity has had on many of our most vulnerable citizens, and that this Parliamen...