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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 26 October 2016

26 Oct 2016 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Campbeltown Airport (Spaceport Bid)
Finnie, John Green Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I thank my colleague David Stewart for bringing the motion to the chamber. He outlined that Argyll and Bute Council, and Highlands and Islands Enterprise lend their support to the proposal for Campbeltown airport to be a spaceport. I certainly lend my personal support for that. I will not pussyfoot about the issue at all; I am clear on where my support lies.

I want the debate to be a bit more informed than it simply being about one member’s runway being longer than another member’s runway. The reality is that, of course, there are competing demands. It is estimated that the UK space industry could create up to 100,000 jobs by 2030. Argyll and Bute Council is focused on the jobs element. To supplement our excellent cohort of timber lorry drivers, we want to get the specialist jobs that would come with a spaceport.

Mr Gibson talked about the workforce and Mr Bibby mentioned the expertise that exists there. The motion highlights that when it talks about the

“close proximity to areas of engineering expertise”.

The reality is that the people who are involved in jobs at that level are part of a very mobile workforce. I am sure that they would enjoy coming to the Kintyre peninsula and that they would be made very welcome there.

I also favour Machrihanish as the site was purchased from the Ministry of Defence and the Scottish Greens are very keen to see the MOD portfolio in Scotland greatly reduced. The fact that the site was part of a community buyout in 2012 just adds to that.

The Scottish Greens have a policy on space travel. Part of the strategy is that we would want surrounding communities to benefit. As has been said on many occasions already, there are very strong community links between the Kintyre community and the Machrihanish site.

The UK Government’s £50 million investment in space will go a long way.

I, too, will mention Clyde Space, its cube satellites and its leading market role. If we had a spaceport in Scotland—wherever it might be—we could design, build and launch satellites from Scotland. For the reasons outlined, it is certainly my view that Machrihanish would be that site.

The London School of Economics identifies something called “knowledge spillovers” from increased space research and development, in which the knowledge gained can be used to create other technologies in different sectors such as aeronautics, healthcare, transport and energy. This was news to me, but examples of the spillovers from NASA research include advanced robotic surgery, efficient engines, memory foam mattresses, water purification and environmental sensors. It also fed into information about the optimal sites for wind farms. Of course, wind farms have become tourist attractions. We know from Whitelee what a significant number of tourists there can be. There is no doubt that a spaceport would become a tourist attraction, too.

A policy on space exploration was passed at the Greens’ conference in 2015. The first paragraph says:

“We recognise the benefits to society provided by satellite technology and building our scientific knowledge, particularly environmental science, and in the provision of telecommunications and navigation services.”

It would not be a Green policy if it did not make reference to recycling, and part of the policy is to

“encourage the salvaging and recycling of redundant and waste material currently in orbit.”

The most important condition that we would attach to support for the Campbeltown bid for a spaceport, which we fully endorse, is that

“We oppose the militarisation of space, and we fully endorse the UN Outer Space Treaty”,

the formal title of which is the “Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies”.

I thank David Stewart for securing the debate.

17:30  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S5M-01615, in the name of David Stewart, on support for Campbeltown airport as spaceport. ...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Thank you for that vote of confidence, Presiding Officer. I am delighted to speak. On 9 July 1962, a Thor-Delta rocket was launched from Cape Canaveral. On ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Some people think that there are individuals in here who are already tethered to the moon. 17:14
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
I thank David Stewart for securing valuable debating time in the chamber on this important matter. I recognise that this is a topic about which we both feel ...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I want to agree with David Stewart, and I do not believe that he is wired to the moon for having made his suggestion. I support his proposal.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I was rather speaking of some others in here—including myself—not, indeed, Mr Stewart.
Edward Mountain Con
In my opinion, only one site in Scotland really stands out—and that is the site at Machrihanish. The reasons are those that have already been partly given. ...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I join members in welcoming the motion and congratulate Dave Stewart on securing the debate. It is clear, from the speeches that we have heard so far, that a...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
I thank my colleague David Stewart for bringing the motion to the chamber. He outlined that Argyll and Bute Council, and Highlands and Islands Enterprise len...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
As a Highlands and Islands MSP, I am delighted to offer my support for David Stewart’s motion and the campaign by Discover Space UK, which is leading the bid...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
All the clichés are coming home to roost. Mercifully, there is no vote in members’ business debates. 17:34
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
I apologise to the chamber for not being here for the early part of the debate. I wish to speak in support of what Kenny Gibson said about Prestwick airport....
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I was just telling you that you were coming to the end of your four minutes, Mr Scott. I was not being so unkind as to tell you to stop. I call the minister...
The Minister for Business, Innovation and Energy (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
I, too, have been very interested in the debate, and I thank David Stewart for securing it. It is quite obvious that proponents in the chamber for Campbeltow...
John Scott Con
Does the minister agree with me that that will ultimately be driven by the market, as those who want to put objects and people into space will decide themsel...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was a good try, Mr Scott.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
That was a good attempt; I have to give marks out of 10 for effort. I accept the first part of what John Scott said and I will come on to the other aspect of...
David Stewart Lab
Will the minister give way?
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I will develop the point and then bring Mr Stewart in. There are a range of space flight operators and a range of opportunities to be pursued, including the...
David Stewart Lab
We discussed earlier that the decision making will really be by the UK Government’s Department of Transport and the Civil Aviation Authority. However, there ...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
As I am relatively new to my post, I am not aware of anything specific in that area, but I will investigate and, if need be, I will get back to Mr Stewart on...
David Stewart Lab
Will the minister take another intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please be brief, Mr Stewart, as we are running short of time.
David Stewart Lab
We have been talking about horizontal take-off in this debate, but the minister might be aware that there are opportunities for vertical take-off, particular...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I am happy to accept that point and I will look at those aspects in due course. I understand that the HIAL board previously considered whether to proceed wi...