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Meeting of the Parliament 15 September 2016

15 Sep 2016 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Domestic Abuse Law
Forbes, Kate SNP Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch Watch on SPTV

I address every individual in Scotland today whose home is a torture chamber, who conceals physical and psychological scars and who lives in fear of a tyrant—a tyrant who threatens, intimidates and hits, who controls and isolates, who humiliates and degrades, who controls what is spent, what is watched and what is worn, and who makes another human being feel like nothing and nobody. For those who are subjected to such abuse, I hope that our debate today and the Scottish Government’s proposed domestic abuse bill send a loud and strong message that such behaviour is not just a wee spat, it is not just a wee mistake and it is not just a wee one-off: it is criminally wrong and utterly immoral.

I can quote the numbers of reported domestic abuse incidents in Scotland—nearly 60,000 last year—but only a fifth of those who experience partner abuse actually tell the police, so we can safely assume that that figure is not correct.

Quoting numbers does not tell the individual stories, either. Last month I met members of Lochaber Women’s Aid, who do an incredible job. They shared details about specific women whom they have helped. I was so angry to hear about the cowardly and creatively dehumanising cruelty of the perpetrators, but at the same time I was full of admiration for the women who relive their experiences in an effort to get justice as they give evidence to police, the courts and support groups, and who care for children, as well as for themselves.

I was also frustrated that the current law does not provide the police, prosecutors and courts with sufficient powers to bring perpetrators to justice, and by the fact that, most crucially of all, it does not give confidence to victims to come forward. That is why we need the Government’s radical and groundbreaking proposals and why we need cross-party support.

So, what do I welcome in the new proposal? First, I welcome that the new offence will improve the ability of the police to intervene in specific cases, and that the Scottish Government promises to work closely with Police Scotland to ensure that training is in place. Training is absolutely vital. In one part of the Highlands, every student community nurse is given at least an hour’s training with the local Women’s Aid group. They are briefed on some of the big issues, on how to identify signs of potential domestic abuse in women, men and children and—almost most important—on how to make contact with the Women’s Aid groups that are at the coalface of caring for and representing victims. Currently, new recruits in the police service are given some training at Tulliallan as part of their induction, but I would love to see refresher courses, especially in the more remote areas of Scotland, and strong encouragement to work collaboratively with local Women’s Aid groups and other support groups.

Secondly, the bill will develop a more joined-up approach and will provide police, prosecutors and the courts with sufficient powers to bring perpetrators of abuse to justice. In a recent Scottish Government consultation, more than 90 per cent of respondents believed that that is not happening under the current law.

In my discussions with Women’s Aid, I have been shocked to hear that on many occasions, those who have been abused can sometimes on the day of a trial sit in the justice centre from first thing in the morning until the end of the afternoon, but be none the wiser as to whether the abuser has been found not guilty, is out on bail or has been sent to prison. I know that that is not the case everywhere, but we have to get the basics right. There should be an agreed communications plan from the court, procurator fiscal or police for the victim. It is an utter travesty to have vulnerable women anywhere in this country agonising about whether they will bump into their abusers.

Thirdly, the new offence will give the courts the powers that they need to impose tough maximum penalties on perpetrators. Domestic abuse courts have been mentioned; I would like a travelling domestic abuse court that could visit rural locations for one or two days a month, with a sheriff who specialises in domestic abuse cases, in order to ensure that cases of abuse in the Highlands get justice. The heinous but hidden crime of domestic abuse is a national issue, and any changes to the law must account for remote and rural Scotland so that there is no postcode lottery.

Legislation is, of course, not the only answer, but it sends a very loud message to perpetrators that their actions are inexcusably immoral. I hope that it will also go some way towards giving victims greater confidence in the justice system so that they come forward and can make sure that justice is delivered. For that reason, I welcome the debate and strongly welcome the Government’s priority of ensuring that a domestic abuse bill is introduced early in this parliamentary session.

15:06  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-01434, in the name of Michael Matheson, on domestic abuse law. From the outset, I inform members that—wa...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
Domestic abuse blights the lives of too many people in Scotland. It might not be obvious because, in contrast with many other forms of crime, it is largely h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Douglas Ross to speak to and move amendment S5M-01434.1. Mr Ross, nine minutes please. 14:44
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am pleased to open for the Scottish Conservatives in the debate on the Scottish Government’s proposal to introduce a criminal offence of domestic abuse. Si...
The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Douglas Ross Con
I am sorry, I have two and a half minutes.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I can give you the time back if you want to take the intervention.
Douglas Ross Con
I will come back to it if I have time, but I have quite a bit to get through. Interruption. I was asking about the Crown Agent, if that helps the minister. ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you—you moved your amendment just before I asked you to do so. I call Claire Baker to speak to amendment S5M-01434.2—you have seven minutes, Ms Baker. ...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
The year 2016 marks 40 years since the establishment of Scottish Women’s Aid, which brought together a network of local organisations across the country. Loc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
My apologies to Ms Baker: I was giving my signals and she was due seven minutes. I will need to get my glasses on more often. We move to the open debate. 15:00
Kate Forbes (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
I address every individual in Scotland today whose home is a torture chamber, who conceals physical and psychological scars and who lives in fear of a tyrant...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
When I was first elected to the Parliament, in 2003, one of the first debates in which I spoke was on domestic abuse. I referred to a song by Charlie Rich th...
Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the proposed legislation and believe that it is a huge step on the way to tackling the true nature of domestic abuse. As many other members have sa...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful for the opportunity to debate domestic abuse and how we improve the legislation to better protect victims. It was disappointing that the Scotti...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
I think that the phrase “domestic abuse” has become a bit of a fig leaf. Society has pulled a veil over the reality so that it does not upset us too much or ...
Gordon Lindhurst (Lothian) (Con) Con
We no doubt all agree that domestic abuse that is carried out against anyone for any reason is wrong. People who carry out domestic abuse give love a bad nam...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
Please, Mr Lindhurst.
Gordon Lindhurst Con
I have made my point. We need to remember that, when it comes to statute, it is not enough to say “a rose By any other name would smell as sweet”. Languag...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please close now, Mr Lindhurst.
Gordon Lindhurst Con
If we fail to get it right, the Parliament will give law a bad name. 15:35
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
This Parliament—and indeed Scotland—can be proud that in nearly every session since the Parliament was reconvened, domestic abuse in its different forms has ...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the motion in Michael Matheson’s name and I am encouraged that the Scottish Government is committed to tackling domestic abuse as part of a wider s...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
The Scottish Green Party welcomes the proposed bill. Tackling domestic abuse is, rightly, a priority for the criminal justice system, for society and for tho...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
This is a debate that I sincerely wish that we were not having. Domestic abuse is repugnant on every level, which is why I am pleased that the Scottish Gover...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
There is no doubt that everybody deserves protection from an abusive partner, and I welcome the Scottish Government’s commitment to enacting and enforcing a ...
Ruth Maguire (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak in this debate and I commend the Scottish Government and Parliament for their commitment to improving how the justice syst...
Kezia Dugdale (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
When I speak to journalists outwith Scotland, the first question they often ask is about what it is like to be in a Parliament in which three of the parties ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
It is refreshing to hear somebody speaking who does not normally get a turn in debates. 16:16
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
What is domestic abuse? For many, the initial thought is that it is physical abuse or even sexual abuse; yet, for many abuse victims, it can be emotional, me...