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Meeting of the Parliament 08 March 2016

08 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Higher Education Governance (Scotland) Bill

Miss Goldie has raised that issue before at previous debates in Parliament, and that is a point on which I differ from her. I think that a higher education institution is something far broader than a business, and it is important that the chair or senior lay person is accountable to the governing body but also to that wider community of staff and students.

We talked about the selection process earlier, and that is one of the reasons why I have included in the bill measures that afford institutions the ability to select candidates for election, so that they can demonstrate their ability to drive the further success of our higher education institutions.

I have also listened carefully to concerns about how the new senior lay member might impact on the traditional role of rector. It was never the intention of the Government to abolish the role in those institutions that have a rector, despite the rigorous attempts by some to portray the bill’s measures as such, so at stage 2 I also ensured that measures were included to protect the statutory and historical role of the rector in our ancient universities.

Rectors and senior lay members on the governing bodies of HEIs currently play different but complementary roles. This bill does not change that. With both the roles elected in future, it will be the responsibility of each autonomous institution to ensure that the campus electorate is clear on the dovetail that exists between the two roles. Some stakeholders have raised concerns that students and staff in institutions will be confused about those roles and about what they are voting for, but I have complete faith that students and staff will have little difficulty in working that out.

Next, the bill aims to ensure that the composition of each governing body is representative of the entire campus community. With a majority of lay members, staff members, student members and union members, a fair and balanced blend is created. The bill also ensures that academic boards or senates will feature a majority of elected staff and students, and adequate student representation in particular is very important.

I believe that the bill features a definition of academic freedom that protects the rights of staff while giving institutions a key role in assessing the reasonableness of any expression of academic freedom. That is an important balance, because academic freedom cannot be construed as a licence to break the law.

It is a fact that higher education institutions are autonomous, but in a tough financial settlement the Scottish Government has identified over £1 billion of direct grant investment in Scotland’s higher education sector, which will be delivered next year. Ensuring that access to higher education is free, teaching is of a high quality and research is supported to enable our institutions to contribute to our economic strategy is a price that is well worth paying when it comes to our overall aims of creating a fairer Scotland and a more prosperous economy.

As a society and a Government, we are entitled to expect higher education institutions to adhere to the highest standards of governance, and to be ambitious in seeking ways to continuously improve. Excellence is not a given, so I hope and expect that all of our institutions will embrace the changes that this bill introduces.

At its heart, the bill is about ensuring that all voices on campus are heard, are equal, and are empowered to contribute to decision making. We have heard before—and may hear again from some members today—about how bad an idea campus elections are, and about how talented people will be put off from applying for the post of elected chair or senior lay member. When I was preparing for today’s debate, I was reminded of the 1865 rectorial election at the University of Edinburgh, at which Thomas Carlyle faced up to Benjamin Disraeli. I am sure that members will agree that that was a shortlist that was not lacking in talent.

Thomas Carlyle won that election and gave an inaugural address to the students of the university on 2 April 1866, almost 150 years ago. Of course, there were no women in attendance, as women were not admitted to Scottish universities until 1892. However, I can still whole-heartedly agree with the view that Carlyle expressed in that address that

“universities have, and will continue to have, an indispensable value in society”.

That observation stands the test of time, but the nature of higher education institutions has changed, along with the expectations that students, staff and the public beyond the campus have for them.

This bill represents another step on the journey for our higher education institutions, which continue to be world leaders in teaching and research. It embraces the contributions of all in the campus community to ensure growth, prosperity and greater equality in future. I commend the bill to the Parliament, and I hope that members will support its passage at stage 3.

I move,

That the Parliament agrees that the Higher Education Governance (Scotland) Bill be passed.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item is a debate on motion S4M-15838, in the name of Angela Constance, on the Higher Education Governance (Scotland) Bill. I call the cabinet secr...
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Angela Constance) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of the standing orders, I wish to advise the Parliament that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Higher Edu...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
The cabinet secretary advocates a raison d’être for her bill, particularly in relation to what she considers to be the role of the chair. Is she aware of the...
Angela Constance SNP
Miss Goldie has raised that issue before at previous debates in Parliament, and that is a point on which I differ from her. I think that a higher education i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Iain Gray. We are quite tight for time, so Mr Gray has seven minutes. 18:29
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
In all the different stages of the bill, it is important that we recognise that, whatever our views on the merits or demerits of the bill, it is good that we...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
It will be no surprise that we do not support the bill. Not only do we continue to believe that there is absolutely no need for it, given the Scottish Govern...
Annabel Goldie Con
On the issue of the model of governance, as proposed by the bill, I have, in vain, asked the Scottish Government to give me an example of where that model ca...
Liz Smith Con
I am afraid that I cannot help Annabel Goldie, because we have not had an answer to that question. It remains in the mists of time. I really do not understan...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP) SNP
For a relatively modest piece of proposed legislation, the Higher Education Governance (Scotland) Bill has generated considerable comment. Members of the Edu...
John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab) Lab
As we have heard, the passage of the bill has not been a great advert for the Scottish Government’s competence and grasp of educational matters, but then aga...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Our university sector is genuinely world class, but that does not mean that our universities cannot be improved. Adapting to changing needs, expectations and...
Stewart Maxwell SNP
Will the member give way?
Liam McArthur LD
I do not really have time, I am afraid. All the evidence shows that the best-performing universities worldwide are those that exercise the greatest level of...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
As I said in speaking to my amendments at stage 3, practically every single part of the bill has caused storm and fury. During stage 1, we discussed potentia...
Liz Smith Con
Will the member take an intervention?
George Adam SNP
Unfortunately, I have only about 10 seconds left. I believe in the bill; it is a way forward for our higher education institutions. I want to work with them...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to speak in this evening’s stage 3 debate on the Higher Education Governance (Scotland) Bill. The bill is by no means perfect, and it would hav...
Liz Smith Con
Given what the member has just said, can she tell me why it took two hours and two minutes for Labour to make its first contribution this afternoon?
Cara Hilton Lab
I confess that I am a wee bit confused by that intervention so I will pass. The bill will give staff, students and trade unions a real voice and a real say ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We move to the closing speeches. 19:00
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
It has been quite a long day. When the cabinet secretary mentioned Thomas Carlyle, I thought that I would look up one or two quotes on my iPad. He said: “th...
Angela Constance SNP
Will Mrs Scanlon give way?
Mary Scanlon Con
Of course.
Angela Constance SNP
I just wondered whether she had a quote about cheerful women.
Mary Scanlon Con
The cabinet secretary is very knowledgeable about the time that Thomas Carlyle was writing, so she will know that we can assume that what he said applied to ...
Stewart Maxwell SNP
Go on.
Mary Scanlon Con
I would like to, but I just cannot. As we normally do on these occasions, I thank the clerks of the Education and Culture Committee and, in particular, I th...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As Iain Gray set out at the beginning of the debate, Labour supports the general principles of the bill. The bill has the laudable aims of ensuring that the ...
Angela Constance SNP
I thank members for today’s stage 3 debate and record my thanks to the Education and Culture Committee. Unlike Mary Scanlon, I will not embarrass its convene...