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Local Government and Regeneration Committee 09 March 2016

09 Mar 2016 · S4 · Local Government and Regeneration Committee
Item of business
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
Watt, Maureen SNP Aberdeen South and North Kincardine Watch on SPTV
Amendments 13 and 14 allow local authorities to charge for access to the burial register and to charge for the provision of extracts from the register. That reflects the fact that many local authorities already charge for the provision of such services. Amendment 15 requires a burial authority to retain the burial register indefinitely. Section 14 sets out the details that are to be held in a burial register and the duty on a burial authority to maintain the register. Amendments 26 to 28 update the requirements relating to the burial register and are intended to avoid the problems that have arisen in the past whereby details of the right owner have been lost. Amendment 26 is a minor drafting amendment that is intended to provide consistency of drafting in relation to some of the registered duties. Amendment 27 makes it clear that the register should contain, in addition to the details of whom the right of burial was sold to, the details of the current owner of the right. That will be necessary in situations in which the original owner has died or has sold the right to someone else and may not have informed the burial authority of the change of ownership. The amendment at new subsection (2A) makes it clear that the burial authority is required only to make reasonable efforts to ascertain the contact details of whom the new right-holders are. Amendment 28 puts it beyond doubt that a certified copy of an extract from a burial register can be considered to be sufficient for evidentiary purposes in any court proceedings. Amendments 36 to 38 relate to the requirement on local authorities to prepare and maintain a register of private burials. The overall effect of the amendments is to provide consistency with requirements relating to other registers that are made under the bill. Amendment 36 changes the way in which the duty of a local authority to keep a register of private burials is imposed. It will no longer be imposed under regulations but on the face of the bill. That provides consistency with the requirements for other registers. Amendment 37 gives the label “private burial register” to such registers. Amendment 38, among other things, provides that a copy of an entry in the register is to be regarded as sufficient evidence of the private burial for any court proceedings. The bill will place a duty on burial authorities to create and maintain a register of burials and will create a legal framework for exhumations that do not involve the police or the Crown Office. In order to ensure that burial records are accurate, it is vital that any exhumations are also recorded. Amendment 52 will require burial authorities to create and maintain a register of exhumation. Amendment 64, which replaces section 34, relates to the requirement on burial authorities to prepare and maintain a register of lairs that have been restored to use. The overall effect of the amendment is to provide consistency with the requirements relating to other registers that are made under the bill, both in the drafting of the bill and in its effect. The amendment gives ministers the power to make regulations for the register, including regulations that prescribe the information to be recorded and the form in which it is to be recorded. The amendment requires that the registers be made accessible to the public. Burial authorities may set and charge a fee for doing that. They must provide copies of entries in the register, and they may also charge for doing that. Any copy of an entry in the register is to be regarded as sufficient evidence for any court proceedings. The amendment requires the register to be kept indefinitely. That requirement is consistently set in all registers that are made under the bill. Amendments 77 and 78 allow a cremation authority to charge for access to the cremation register and for the provision of copies of entries in the cremation register. Amendment 79 inserts a provision that requires the cremation register to be kept indefinitely. It is intended that all registers that are covered under the bill should be kept indefinitely. Amendment 128 requires that any information that is required to be kept, and any register that is required to be prepared and maintained under the bill, must be kept in electronic form. Amendments 136 and 138 make changes to the bill’s interpretation section. They are largely consequential on other amendments that are being made to the bill, specifically in the sections that relate to registers and records. Amendment 141 removes the reference to electronic record keeping in section 75. It is a consequence of other amendments. I will ensure that there is an appropriate implementation period, so that anyone who is required to keep information under the bill can ensure that they are able to meet those requirements. I move amendment 13.

In the same item of business

The Convener SNP
We move to our first substantive item. Item 2 is stage 2 consideration of the Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill. I welcome back to the committee the Mini...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 2, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 3 to 7, 16 to 25, 56, 134, 139 and 140.
The Minister for Public Health (Maureen Watt) SNP
Good morning, members. Amendment 2 ensures that the bill will apply to burial grounds that are no longer actively used for burial. That will mean, for examp...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 8, in the name of the minister is grouped with amendments 10, 32, 44, 70, 74, 110, 126, 127 and 142 to 144. 09:45
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendments 8, 10, 32, 44, 70, 74, 110 and 126 are minor drafting amendments that add the word “or” to various sections of the bill that confer powers to make...
The Convener SNP
Members have no comments. Minister, do you wish to wind up?
Maureen Watt SNP
No. Amendment 8 agreed to.
The Convener SNP
Amendment 9, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 11, 12, 29, 40, 45, 46, 53, 65, 71, 75, 76, 82, 88 and 122.
Maureen Watt SNP
The amendments in this group relate to offences. Many of the amendments have been lodged in response to concerns that were raised at stage 1 about the creati...
The Convener SNP
No other member has indicated that they wish to speak. Minister, do you wish to wind up?
Maureen Watt SNP
No. Amendment 9 agreed to. Section 8, as amended, agreed to. Section 9 agreed to. Section 10—Burial register Amendments 10 to 12 moved—Maureen Watt—an...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 13, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 14, 15, 26 to 28, 36 to 38, 52, 64, 77 to 79, 128, 136, 138 and 141.
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendments 13 and 14 allow local authorities to charge for access to the burial register and to charge for the provision of extracts from the register. That ...
The Convener SNP
If no one else wishes to enter the debate, does the minister wish to forgo her right to sum up?
Maureen Watt SNP
Yes. Amendment 13 agreed to. Amendments 14 and 15 moved—Maureen Watt—and agreed to. Section 10, as amended, agreed to. Section 11 agreed to. Section 12—...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 30, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 91 and 123 to 125. 10:00
Maureen Watt SNP
The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee recommended that codes of practice that are issued under the bill should be approved by the Scottish Parliament...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 31, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 41, 42, 89, 145 and 90.
Maureen Watt SNP
The amendments in this group relate to the charging of fees relating to burial and cremation by local authorities, including placing duties on local authorit...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 33, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 34, 35, 39, 129 and 133.
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendments 33 to 35 relate to the private burial of the remains of a pregnancy loss. The effect of the amendments is to exclude such a burial from the requir...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 43, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 47 to 51.
Maureen Watt SNP
Applications for routine exhumation are being removed from the court process by the bill, although appeals about decisions will still be heard by the sheriff...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 54, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 55 and 57 to 63.
Maureen Watt SNP
The amendments in this group make various changes and clarifications for the process of restoring lairs to use. Amendment 54 sets out the initial test that b...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 66, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 67 to 69, 72, 73, 80, 81, 83 to 87, 131 and 135.
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendments 66 to 69, 72, 73, 80, 81 and 83 to 87 make various changes to the responsibilities of cremation authorities. Amendment 66 enables a local authori...
The Convener SNP
Amendment 1, in the name of John Wilson, is in a group on its own.
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
Amendment 1 arose from discussions about the Cremation Act 1902 when the committee took evidence from witnesses. We learned that the Government has not taken...
The Convener SNP
No one else wishes to enter the debate on this amendment but, before calling the minister, I ask her to give an indication of whether there has been any disc...