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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 22 March 2016

22 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Watt, Maureen SNP Aberdeen South and North Kincardine Watch on SPTV

Amendment 18 is a structural change to the bill to move section 20 so that it sits with the sections relating to burial in a burial ground. It will be placed in the bill after section 15. It is a minor drafting change.

Amendments 19 and 22 are minor technical adjustments. They will ensure the system for applying for an exhumation and the issuing of guidance about burial authorities’ functions operate effectively.

There have been a number of amendments to the bill in relation to stillbirth, including one that provided for a definition of “still-birth” to be included in section 75, “Interpretation”. Amendment 28 removes the definition from section 47, and amendment 35 removes the definitions of “still-birth” and “still-born child” from section 47B. The definitions are provided in the interpretation section and are no longer needed in sections 47 and 47B.

Amendments 42 and 44 move sections 48 and 49, so that they appear after section 47. The amendments regroup the sections, following the insertion of new sections between sections 47 and 48 at stage 2.

Amendments 98 and 99 make minor changes to section 62, which confers powers on inspectors to enter certain types of premises. Amendment 98 will enable an inspector, if authorised by the Scottish ministers, to enter premises associated with the carrying out of functions of burial authorities and others. The approach will ensure that all activities of burial and cremation authorities and funeral directors are dealt with, by giving inspectors the power to carry out inspections wherever necessary. Amendment 99 makes a necessary consequential change.

Amendments 69 and 70 change references to “documents or records” to “documents, records or registers”. The effect is to make it an offence for a person to fail to comply with an instruction by an inspector to produce a document, record or register. The approach will ensure that an inspector can view information in each format, for the purposes of section 62.

Amendment 72 adds definitions of “still-birth” and “still-born child” to the interpretation section of the bill. Amendments 102 to 107 are minor, technical amendments to the table of repeals in schedule 2. Amendment 73 is a technical amendment, which ensures that the long title of the bill accurately reflects the bill’s content, including the amendments at stage 2 and proposed amendments at stage 3.

I move amendment 18.

Amendment 18 agreed to.

Section 22—Exhumation of human remains

Amendment 19 moved—[Maureen Watt]—and agreed to.

Section 23A—Exhumation register

Amendment 20 moved—[Maureen Watt]—and agreed to.

Section 34—Register of restored lairs

Amendment 21 moved—[Maureen Watt]—and agreed to.

Section 35—Guidance

Amendment 22 moved—[Maureen Watt]—and agreed to.

Section 37—Cremation authority: duties

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is stage 3 proceedings on the Burial and Cremation (Scotland) Bill. In dealing with the amendments, members should have the bill a...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to group 1: meaning of “burial authority” and “burial ground”. Amendment 2, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 3 to 17, 20, 21 a...
The Minister for Public Health (Maureen Watt) SNP
This group of amendments makes a number of changes to references to burial authorities. Most of the changes are consequential on amendment 2, which alters th...
The Presiding Officer NPA
No member has asked to speak on this group of amendments. Does the minister wish to wind up?
Maureen Watt SNP
No. Amendment 2 agreed to. Section 2—Local authority duty to provide burial ground Amendment 3 moved—Maureen Watt—and agreed to. Section 3—Provision of ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We come next to group 2, which is minor and technical amendments. Amendment 18, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 19, 22, 28, 35, 42, 4...
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendment 18 is a structural change to the bill to move section 20 so that it sits with the sections relating to burial in a burial ground. It will be placed...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 3 is on cremation authority duties. Amendment 74, in the name of the minister, is the only amendment in the group.
Maureen Watt SNP
Amendment 74 updates section 37 to put beyond doubt that any regulations that the Scottish ministers make in relation to the operation of a crematorium can i...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Group 4 is on location of crematorium. Amendment 75, in the name of the minister, is the only amendment in the group.
Maureen Watt SNP
The purpose of amendment 75 is to remove from the bill section 42A, which was inserted at stage 2. I said at stage 2 that I considered the kind of statutory...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Section 42A is very odd. From reading it, I take it that there are two policy intentions: to protect residential properties that exist from having a cremator...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I am concerned about amendment 75. The minister went on at length about planning policy. We would all hope that the planning authority would make reasonable ...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Is Rhoda Grant saying that a local authority would not be concerned about such matters?
Rhoda Grant Lab
I sincerely hope that it would be, but in the past we have seen local authorities make decisions that fly in the face of such concerns. Even in spite of camp...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
The amendment that inserted section 42A at stage 2 was lodged to address an issue that had been identified by the Local Government and Regeneration Committee...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
John Wilson Ind
No. “We therefore recommend the Scottish Government takes cognisance of the issues raised and, in discussion with planning colleagues, brings forward an ame...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
A number of issues have been raised. We often find that there is conflict between different pieces of legislation. In this case, the conflict is between the ...
John Wilson Ind
Will Mr Stewart confirm that he was the convener of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee that produced the stage 1 report that asked the Scottish ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I was the convener of the committee, and I suggested that that be looked at. Mr Wilson’s stage 2 amendment could have been better worded, if it was intended ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call the minister to wind up.
Maureen Watt SNP
It is true that local authorities agree with a minimum distance, but they believe that they should make the decision. The Institute of Cemetery and Crematori...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment 75 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. As this is the first division at stage 3, I suspend the meeting for five minutes. 10:31 Meeting suspended. 10:36 On resuming—
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
We will now proceed with the division on amendment 75. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Central Scotland) (SNP) Allan, Dr Alasdair (Na ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
The result of the division is: For 61, Against 38, Abstentions 0. Amendment 75 agreed to. Section 46—Arrangements on death of adult
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We come to group 5. Amendment 23, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 24 to 27, 29, 31 to 33, 36, 38, 41, 43, 45 to 54, 91, 92, 55 to 57 ...
Maureen Watt SNP
In themselves, the amendments in this group do not have any impact on the meaning of the sections to which they relate; they are technical drafting amendment...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We come to group 6. Amendment 76, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 77 to 80, 30, 81 to 86, 86A, 87, 88, 34, 37, 39, 40, 89, 90, 93, 58...