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Meeting of the Parliament 17 March 2016

17 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Food
Allard, Christian SNP North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I did not sign the motion, because although I read the report and thought that it was very good, I think that something is missing: it needs a stronger emphasis on where people buy their food every day. People buy their food from the major retailers. We need to take a stronger approach with the major retailers, not just by having better legislation and regulation as in other countries, but by ensuring that the major retailers sell local produce. To my mind, that should be at the centre of everything that we do when we consider food. I very much enjoyed the report, but it does not have enough on that.

I am delighted that Alison Johnstone secured the debate. The “PLENTY” report starts with a statement that begins:

“We have plenty of land in Scotland”.

We do, and because Parliament backed the Scottish Government’s Land Reform (Scotland) Bill yesterday, as Alison Johnstone said, more of our land will be used to grow food. That is really the heart of the issue.

The statement goes on to say that Scotland has “plenty of sea”. We do. Scottish fish are back. I have been saying that for a long time—I worked in the fishing industry for 30 years before I entered Parliament—but now the fish are back in terms of quantity and size, after the fantastic efforts of our fishermen over the past 10 years, and the fantastic efforts of this Parliament, the Scottish Government and the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Food and Environment in backing our fishermen. That is good news.

The statement goes on to say that we also have

“plenty of skilled people”.

It is important to realise that our food industry in Scotland is part of our culture and is a subject of research in our universities, for example. We are able to produce food for export and for local consumption. We have fantastic experts in food production in this country, from farmers and fishermen to scientists and innovators.

I agree with the end of the statement, which says:

“There’s no reason why we shouldn’t have plenty of good food for everyone.”

The solution is always easy: people are always the solution, so we need to talk about people and understand more about food insecurity.

I have met a lot of people in my region, including Dave Simmers, who is the chief executive of Community Food Initiatives North East—CFINE. He has a fantastic organisation that has developed more and more. He used to work for the Cyrenians and has been working in the area for the past 40 years, so he knows the food issues and how they are linked to poverty. CFINE has had its Fruit Mart shop in Peterhead since October last year. Previously, it was in the village of Longside. It also has a charity shop that not only provides local produce but employs 17 people and offers support and employment guidance to adults with learning difficulties. A lot is happening in the countryside and in our cities. We need to welcome that.

Scientists are important. Many members will know Dr Flora Douglas from the University of Aberdeen who often comes to Parliament. She is passionate about what food represents. It is more than food: it is about our culture, our society and how we see ourselves.

On Tuesday night, Rob Gibson MSP hosted the fantastic food for thought event, at which another expert—Shirley Spear, the chair of the Scottish Food Commission—talked about the work and outcomes involved in the school programme. I recommend that members read the Food Commission’s interim report. It is a very interesting read.

We need a different approach. It must involve everybody, including businesses and our food producers. We need to buy local, buy Scottish and trust our farmers, fishermen, food producers and experts. That way, we will ensure that we have plenty of good food of everyone.

12:52  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S4M-15826, in the name of Alison Johnstone, on Scotland’s food future. The debate will be c...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
I welcome the opportunity to debate in Parliament Scotland’s food future, and I thank colleagues who have made that possible by supporting my motion. My mot...
Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
On Monday, I visited a fantastic project in Balfron in my constituency. It is a Food Connections project, the aim of which is to encourage pupils to understa...
Alison Johnstone Green
I thank Bruce Crawford for mentioning that project because it is a fantastic example of making the best use of land everywhere. If we can engage pupils in ou...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You must draw to a close, please.
Alison Johnstone Green
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. We are tight for time today, so speeches should be of four minutes. 12:43
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Alison Johnstone on her motion and I congratulate all the local groups that are mentioned in it, especially those that are based in my constit...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I did not sign the motion, because although I read the report and thought that it was very good, I think that something is missing: it needs a stronger empha...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I come to the debate from a slightly different point of view, having spent most of my life in the food production industry or the farming industry prior to b...
Alison Johnstone Green
I am sure that Alex Johnstone will agree that organic farming is traditional and that it could do with greater support in Scotland than it receives.
Alex Johnstone Con
It is important to realise that, if a particular method is productive and worthwhile, it should compete in a competitive environment with other methods of fa...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
Will Alex Johnstone give way?
Alex Johnstone Con
I ask Mr Finnie to let me carry on. I have only four minutes. Food is produced and it gets to the shops where people can buy it. The problem is that not all...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the Scottish food coalition’s important set of policy asks in advance of the Scottish Parliament elections. The fact that the group is a coalition ...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Sarah Boyack Lab
No, thank you. That is why Scottish Labour has campaigned so strongly for the Scottish Agricultural Wages Board to be retained. The board is crucial to prev...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Can you draw to a close, please?
Sarah Boyack Lab
I also welcome the sustainable food cities initiative and I want to link in the work that is being done by our allotment-growing networks. Let us look at cha...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You must close, please.
Sarah Boyack Lab
It is the interconnection between that range of issues that will deliver on the fantastic work that is being done by the food coalition. 13:01
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
I congratulate Alison Johnstone on bringing this important debate to the chamber. I spoke recently in the chamber about the amount of food that is wasted and...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
The member should draw to a close, please.
John Wilson Ind
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The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Food and Environment (Richard Lochhead) SNP
I congratulate Alison Johnstone on bringing the debate to the chamber. It is a welcome, topical and timely debate, and it illustrates the growing importance ...
John Finnie Ind
The cabinet secretary mentions all those small community projects; they are tremendous, and the aggregate effect can be very impressive. However, what part s...
Richard Lochhead SNP
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Alison Johnstone Green
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
The cabinet secretary is in his last minute.
Richard Lochhead SNP
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