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Meeting of the Parliament 16 March 2016

16 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill
Gibson, Rob SNP Caithness, Sutherland and Ross Watch on SPTV

In tribute to Alex Fergusson, I have always championed his right to say what he believes to be correct, even if we disagree—very often fundamentally—about his proposals. It is in that spirit that I will comment on the way in which the RACCE Committee has worked, and I hope that everybody who took part in the committee recognises that they got a fair hearing. I wish Alex Fergusson well.

The Land Reform (Scotland) Bill has been the subject of widespread consultation. Its intent is radical, its purpose is practical and its basis is competent in law. I want to remind members of the collaborative process by which the bulk of the bill was evolved. Many parts were agreed by all parties in the RACCE Committee but, as we have seen, some were not. However, the formation of the Climate Change (Scotland) Act 2009 set a precedent, as it was achieved by civil society, MSPs of several parties, and ministers working together. In the main, the committee tried to do exactly the same, and that approach is a good precedent for Parliament.

Already, members have thanked many of those who took part in the process for working through the many parts of the bill to reach a very workable and incisive whole. They include Community Land Scotland, the Scottish Tenant Farmers Association, the Scottish Human Rights Commission, Global Witness, individual human rights lawyers, MSPs, ministerial teams, heroically led by Dr Aileen McLeod, and the cabinet secretary, Richard Lochhead. I would like to pay particular thanks to Chris Nicholson, the chair of the Scottish Tenant Farmers Association, who joins us in the chamber, although he is likely to have to head off in a hurry to Dumfries, where his wife will deliver a new member of the family. All the best to him as we, too, try to deliver a lusty child.

The results are a strengthened and more practical bill. Good intentions have been made into workable, practical law. Make no mistake—a proportionate set of objectives and clear aims, applied with proportionate measures, takes us forward to a fairer and more equal land.

I was surprised that Labour members were prepared to jeopardise the whole bill by backing Patrick Harvie’s speculative amendments on European Union registration. I repeat that we need to hold landholders to account and, after the map-based land register is complete, we will need to be able to consider taxing them as well.

The RACCE Committee has worked well. Many of the sections were agreed across the parties, and very few required a vote. That shows that the committees of this Parliament can work as designed, bearing in mind that all Governments—be they coalitions or majority Governments—make sure that their views prevail in key committees. Labour and the Liberal Democrats did that in their coalition, as did the Scottish National Party Government. However, that does not negate a collaborative approach.

This bill gives voice to the public interest. Around 80 per cent of MSPs support its measures. It signals a shift of power towards more responsible and diverse land ownership. It increases transparency to a great extent and helps communities to have more say in the land that they live on. It toughens deer management rules and extracts shooting rates from estates to boost the land fund. It addresses fairness, equalities and social justice and helps to underpin a thriving, tenanted farming sector.

The cornerstone of the bill is placing land reform on a permanent footing in Scotland with the appointment of the land commission. That makes history, as does the statement of land rights and responsibilities, which the Parliament will have to debate and agree. That puts land reform front and centre as the radical underpinning of a progressive Scottish nation. After so many centuries of ownership and control in the hands of the few, the breakthrough to a fairer Scotland comes with the application of international standards of human rights, which other colleagues will probably deal with in some detail.

I thank all those who helped us to get here: my staff at the Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee, the Scottish Parliament information centre and the bill teams. I hope that people across Scotland will take forward our work with practical schemes to show how, rather than being the monopoly of large proprietors who have dominated the rural and urban Scotland of the past, land developments can be in the hands of many more people.

I will get a chance on Tuesday next week to have a small debate about my constituency, and I will be touching then on many of the issues of this debate. Local control is among the top priorities.

If, in 10 years’ time, Scottish Land & Estates has attracted 15,000 members instead of 1,500, comprising individual small farms, community owners and a host of somewhat smaller, leaner large landholdings, that will be both a measure of the success of the bill’s intent and a radical departure from the iniquitous tag as the nation with the most concentrated pattern of land ownership in Europe.

The Land Reform (Scotland) Bill gets to the roots of how better to own, tenant and use sustainably the resources of Scotland beneath our feet. The Parliament has now taken radical action. People can go forward in confidence, backed by competent measures of Scots law, to utilise our precious land.

I fully support the bill.

18:11  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15925, in the name of Aileen McLeod, on the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill. I invite members who wish to spe...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Food and Environment (Richard Lochhead) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of the standing orders, I advise Parliament that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Land Reform (Scotland)...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Today marks an important new chapter in Scotland’s land reform story. Scottish Labour has worked hard and, I hope, in a co-operative manner to secure stronge...
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
I call Alex Fergusson. This will be Mr Fergusson’s final speech in the chamber. 17:56
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I start by drawing members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I thank the clerks to the Rural Affai...
Michael Russell (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP
Will the member reflect on the fact that what he says about a competitive disadvantage would be true only if shooting were price sensitive? There is no evide...
Alex Fergusson Con
I hear what the member says, but if he had listened to my contribution when we were discussing amendments, he would have heard me quoting the British Associa...
Dave Thompson (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
Does Alex Fergusson have any evidence that there has been improvement and non-decline in the tenanted sector over the past 20, 30 or 40 years?
Alex Fergusson Con
No, but my belief is that, had we worked towards the conversion model that all stakeholders were working towards and making progress with before the new idea...
The Presiding Officer NPA
On behalf of the Parliament, I thank Alex Fergusson for his contribution as an MSP, as a committee convener and, of course, as Presiding Officer between 2007...
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
In tribute to Alex Fergusson, I have always championed his right to say what he believes to be correct, even if we disagree—very often fundamentally—about hi...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab) Lab
I am very happy to be involved in this debate, which is very dear to my heart. I would go so far as to say that, alongside seeing what poverty and disadvanta...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
I ask members to note that this will be Dave Thompson’s valedictory speech in our Parliament. We thank him for his nine years of service to the Parliament an...
Dave Thompson (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) SNP
Thank you very much for your kind remarks, Presiding Officer. I believe that the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill is the single most important bill with which I ...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I am a bit concerned that the member is totally ignoring the role of people such as Brian Wilson in the land reform debate. The member is ignoring what Brian...
Dave Thompson SNP
I do not really understand the relevance of the member’s comment to what I was saying. While we are talking about the Tories, I must correct the record foll...
Alex Fergusson Con
Will the member give way?
Dave Thompson SNP
I am sorry, but I need to make progress. I have a few other points that I need to get in. The transformative effects of the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill shou...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
Liberal Democrats have long been advocates of land reform in Scotland, so it may be fitting to recognise the work of Ross Finnie, the Lib Dem minister who le...
Rob Gibson SNP
The member should realise that, when the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill was passed in 2003, there were more than 230 amendments to it, and I am sure that a simi...
Jim Hume LD
I appreciate that intervention from Rob Gibson, and I think that he would also appreciate that, whoever is in Government, it is always best to get the amendm...
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
I am not sure about the analogies to giving birth, but today feels a little like waving a child off into the big bad world. You have invested considerable ti...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
It is concerning to learn that so many of the members who spoke in this afternoon’s debate are standing down. One wonders who will be left to do the hard wor...
Michael Russell (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP
I am very conscious this evening, after a very long day of debate, that we are now reflecting upon where we stand not just now but for the future. We stand ...
Michael Russell SNP
I give way to Fergus Ewing.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Mr Ewing—when you are ready. I hope that it is as soon as possible.
Fergus Ewing SNP
My apologies, Presiding Officer. Since Mr Russell has raised the issue of deer management, I will say that recently I had the pleasure of addressing the an...
Michael Russell SNP
That is a very good question. It can be avoided in the future, and I regard leaving carcases in that way and any such practice as unacceptable. The way to re...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
I, too, thank the many people who have been involved in the good work to get us to this point. The policy memorandum says: “Land, both rural and urban, is ...
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
We move to closing speeches. I call Jamie McGrigor. This is Mr McGrigor’s final speech in the Parliament. 19:00