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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 15 March 2016

15 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Forth Road Bridge Inquiry
Keir, Colin SNP Edinburgh Western Watch on SPTV

It was a very strong rope—and it was not held by Christine Grahame. [Laughter.]

The engineers and others did their jobs in high winds and freezing conditions over several weeks. I commend their skill, bravery and commitment.

I also thank the minister, Derek Mackay, who spent hours at the Transport Scotland centre at Queensferry and provided information regularly.

There are some key findings in the report. Essentially, over the past 10 years, FETA enacted a series of checks that were above the recognised standard of assessment. The same checking regime was used after responsibility was handed from FETA to Transport Scotland. The bridge was let down by a seized pin within a link that is nigh-on impossible to check until cracks appear. All the experts who were called before the committee seemed to say that the problem that caused the disruption last December could not have been foreseen.

The issue that has been highlighted appears to be the timescales relating to FETA’s indicative business plan and whether the problem was foreseeable. It appears that there was an acceptance that the work on the truss end links would be needed at some point; indeed it was mentioned as the fifth item on the to-do list. However, it was not seen to be an emergency.

The Official Report of the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee’s meeting on 27 January is quite enlightening. Former bridgemaster Barry Colford talks of acceptance of risks being subjective. His job as an engineer was to

“prioritise risk based on the philosophies of the safety of the public and the staff; the long-term integrity of the bridge; and disruption.”

Was work on the truss end links deemed as an emergency and would money have been available? Witnesses Councillor Chisholm and former councillor and FETA convener Phil Wheeler appeared settled in their view that the expert advice that had been given to them showed that there was no emergency, but that a long-term process of on-going work was needed. Phil Wheeler stated:

“we were told as a result of the spending review we must make do with what we had unless there was a real emergency.”

Perhaps the only discord came from Councillor Hinds, a former FETA convener, who said:

“We could have asked Transport Scotland for more money and I am sure that the answer would have been no.”—[Official Report, Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee, 27 January 2016; c 29, 28, 29.]

I am a bit confused about why Councillor Hinds believed that without actually having asked Transport Scotland.

The evidence suggests that the inspection regime was robust, the management of the Forth road bridge has done its job over the years, and it is unfortunate that there was no way of identifying the problem before it was too late.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15904, in the name of Jim Eadie, on the report entitled, “Inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the ...
Adam Ingram (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) SNP
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. On behalf of the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee, I am pleased to open the debate on the committee’s...
The Minister for Transport and Islands (Derek Mackay) SNP
I confirm, for accuracy, that it is the case that, at any point, Amey—the operating company—can close the bridge for an emergency at a moment’s notice, witho...
Adam Ingram SNP
I thank the minister for that helpful intervention. As part of its inquiry, the committee was keen to establish whether the defect that led to the closure—a...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you. Mr Ingram, I thank you for your service to the Parliament as a member of the Scottish Parliament, a committee member and a minister, over the pas...
The Minister for Transport and Islands (Derek Mackay) SNP
On behalf of the Government, I concur with the Presiding Officer in her praise of Adam Ingram for his remarkable work as a member of the Scottish Parliament,...
Dennis Robertson (Aberdeenshire West) (SNP) SNP
When the minister talks about priorities, is the top priority the safety of the users of the bridge at all times?
Derek Mackay SNP
Of course it is. Safety is of paramount importance—it is the number 1 priority before, during and after all such works and in all other interventions. That a...
Alex Rowley (Cowdenbeath) (Lab) Lab
I, too, thank Jim Eadie and the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee for producing the report. It was important that the committee considered the ...
Clare Adamson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
While we can say “what if” and talk about what might have been, the scoping of the truss end link project had not been done. There is no guarantee that the r...
Alex Rowley Lab
I accept that there are what ifs. The conclusion that I draw is that FETA intended to have the work done. As a result of cuts in budget, FETA did not do the ...
Derek Mackay SNP
I am sure that the member is aware, from having read the report and understood the indicative capital programme, that paint jobs, landscaping and vehicle rep...
Alex Rowley Lab
The committee report is there and speaks for itself. The evidence speaks for itself and will allow people to draw their own conclusions. Given the time that...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
There are many concepts for which there is no word or phrase in the English language. We usually overcome that by borrowing from the French, but there is one...
Derek Mackay SNP
I hope that I can further reassure the member with the example of the cable bolts issue. In 2012, money was requested to address the emerging concern about t...
Alex Johnstone Con
The minister is convinced that that is how the system works and I am sure that it is. The problem is that there was a mismatch of expectations on both sides ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
We now move to the open debate. 15:32
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, I have a confession to make: I expected the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee’s investigation into the Forth bridge closure ...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
The Forth road bridge is one of the most important transport links in Scotland and it is crucial to Fife’s economy. More than 70,000 vehicles cross the bridg...
Derek Mackay SNP
Would the member have found it helpful to find out more about the travel plans that we put in place if she had attended any of the briefing sessions that I o...
Cara Hilton Lab
Unfortunately, I was not able to attend the briefing sessions that Derek Mackay mentions. On one of the days that a briefing was offered, I was out meeting s...
Derek Mackay SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Cara Hilton Lab
No, I have no time—sorry. I have no doubt that the decision by FETA to reprioritise projects within its capital plan, including the work to replace the trus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Order.
Cara Hilton Lab
I am glad that the minister laughs. That is going to be a devastating blow to the local community. It is vital that plans are brought forward to link Kincard...
Derek Mackay SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Cara Hilton Lab
I am sorry; I am running out of time. I am disappointed in the report. It will disappoint the businesses and commuters in my constituency, who suffered not ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Minister.
Cara Hilton Lab
The SNP took a gamble and thousands of Fife commuters, residents and businesses have been left to pay the price.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Members may wish to note that this is also Colin Keir’s valedictory speech. We thank him for his service to the Parliament over the past years and wish him w...