Committee
Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee 09 March 2016
09 Mar 2016 · S4 · Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee
Item of business
Creative Industries (Economic Impact)
I have announced today that we will have additional studio space—subject, of course, to planning permission by North Lanarkshire Council—and the six-studio sound stage is a major development for Scotland. The application itself will be for a 30,000 square foot studio. According to film industry interests, it would be helpful if it could have two sections for smaller productions, if that is required, and it will also be 50 foot high, which is important for capability and access. That will be supported by funding from Scottish Enterprise. It is a major development that ensures that we have that capability and capacity, which is what the industry wants to hear. Moreover, as I have said in my letter, four productions are already filming, albeit in temporary—though effective—space. We want a permanent solution, but it does not have to be one permanent solution; indeed, we think that there is an opportunity for further solutions. You should remember, though, that when you are reliant on a private sector-led proposal, you can go only at the speed of the private sector interest. In my letter, I have explained that the film studio delivery group has considered other areas, but in making the project state aid compliant, we have to strike a balance between public spend and commercial risk. I have also pointed out that the studios in the other parts of the UK are private sector-led and private sector-funded and that any public money is provided on a commercial basis—as it must be for them to be state aid compliant. Even the recently announced Belfast proposal is entirely private sector-led. I share the frustrations that have been expressed, and I have talked to the committee about them. The issue is ensuring that we have spend; we should remember that, over the past year, there has been £45 million of production spend, which makes it a record year. The activity that has taken place has been strong, but people want to see that there is an opportunity to do so much more. That is the frustration. We can deliver and we are delivering on the screen sector—indeed, we are investing record amounts—but the potential created by the tax credit facility, in particular, means that there is a great opportunity to do far more. That is why the demand for studio space in Scotland is very strong, and we will meet that with the opportunity in the development that is being announced today. This is the first time that we have been able to give you concrete information about an opportunity to have a studio with six sound stages in Scotland. It is good news, although I realise that it does not overcome all the frustrations that people—and I am one of them—have had.
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The Convener
Con
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The Cabinet Secretary for Culture, Europe and External Affairs (Fiona Hyslop)
SNP
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The Convener
Con
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Fiona Hyslop
SNP
I have announced today that we will have additional studio space—subject, of course, to planning permission by North Lanarkshire Council—and the six-studio s...
The Convener
Con
The delivery of this new project is welcome news, and I am sure that other members will have questions about the detail. Do we have state aid clearance for S...
Fiona Hyslop
SNP
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David Smith (Scottish Enterprise)
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The Convener
Con
Thank you. What is the timescale for delivery?
Fiona Hyslop
SNP
That will depend on the private sector developer and the planning process, which will be starting in North Lanarkshire Council.
The Convener
Con
I understand the issues around state aid clearance but, for the record, is it your understanding that the Pentland Studios proposal was not reliant on any st...
Fiona Hyslop
SNP
Yes, that is my understanding. We welcome the opportunity for studio space in Scotland. However, as that particular proposal has been recalled by Scottish mi...
The Convener
Con
I understand that. Can Scotland support more than one film studio?
Fiona Hyslop
SNP
Yes—and I have said so on a number of occasions.
Richard Lyle (Central Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
I want to come in straight away because Cumbernauld is in my region. We gave Mr Smith a hard time the last time that he was at the committee, and we were ver...
The Convener
Con
I am not sure that that was a question, but you can respond if you wish, cabinet secretary.
Fiona Hyslop
SNP
As I say in my letter, there are other live interests and we are pursuing them as well. We are not resting with one proposal. I have charged the film studio ...
Richard Lyle
SNP
Can you tell me when the planning application will be submitted?
Fiona Hyslop
SNP
I stress that the application will not be made by ministers. The private developer must make that move, and he has indicated to us that the planning applicat...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
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Fiona Hyslop
SNP
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Chic Brodie
SNP
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Fiona Hyslop
SNP
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Chic Brodie
SNP
Yes, but—
David Smith
If I could just finish—
Chic Brodie
SNP
I beg your pardon.
David Smith
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Chic Brodie
SNP
Forgive me, Mr Smith, but the cabinet secretary has just announced that you are going to build a 30,000 square feet—
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SNP
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