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Meeting of the Parliament 09 March 2016 [Draft]

09 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Rural Payments

I very much welcome the opportunity to debate what is an important subject for rural Scotland—and the whole country—and to discuss the implementation of the new common agricultural policy, which supports our farmers and crofters to put food on our tables and manage our landscapes and in turn helps the downstream industries to sustain jobs.

As I said at the NFUS annual general meeting last month, farming is facing a perfect storm. Unfortunately, the bad weather that we have experienced over the past 12 months and unfavourable market conditions have coincided with the biggest CAP reform ever. That is no exaggeration: never before have both pillar 1 and pillar 2 of the policy been reformed in the same year. Not a single scheme from the previous CAP—in either pillar—has come through unchanged into the new policy. Every one of the old schemes has been changed or replaced by a new scheme—or sometimes by more than one new scheme.

Over 2015, the Government launched about 20 schemes across the whole CAP, which are being taken forward this year. Some of those schemes are radically different from their predecessors, not least that which relates to the biggest reform—the allocation of about £400 million on the basis of a business’s land area rather than historical activity. On top of that, we have greening and the new rural development programme.

That is why it was essential for us to engage deeply and in detail with our stakeholders from the very beginning of the reform process. Throughout that process, the industry in general and the NFUS in particular gave us—the Government and the negotiators—a very clear message. They were adamant that the top priority was to get the right policy outcomes. After all, decisions that were taken in the most recent reform will determine how the CAP operates for many years to come.

After a lot of discussion and negotiation, we finally agreed with the industry that we needed new activity rules to halt and phase out the scourge of slipper farming. That move was supported by all parties in the Parliament. We agreed that, as part of the new basic payment scheme, Scotland should be split into payment regions with different payment rates for different types of land, in order to deliver the right level of payments to the right places. That move was widely supported by all the political parties in the Parliament.

We agreed that coupled support or headage payments must be extended to the sheep sector and that we should look after the needs of beef producers—particularly those on our islands, where the payment rate would be different. I remember that that, too, attracted widespread support in the Parliament. Finally, we agreed that we must not repeat the mistakes of the past, when unlucky new entrants found themselves frozen out of payments for the life of the previous CAP reform.

We spent many months developing those policy details with stakeholders. Like, I am sure, most people—except Alex Fergusson, given his speech—I believed then and firmly believe now that they were the right decisions to take. Europe imposed on us a complex new policy that covers greening, the move away from historically based payments and so on, and our decisions here in Scotland, which were taken jointly with industry and supported by the Parliament, added a lot more complexity on top.

The timescale for getting those decisions implemented was tight. For pillar 1—or direct payments—the EU did not adopt the main regulations until about a year before the new schemes had to start, and the detailed rules came later than that. For pillar 2—the rural development pillar—the situation was even worse. Strictly speaking, the new Scottish rural development programme should have started on 1 January 2014, but Europe had not even set out all the rules by then. It was only because of the transition arrangements, which the Scottish Government fought for, that we avoided a disastrous gap between rural development programmes.

In the light of that timescale, we made it very clear to stakeholders that the extra policy details that they were asking for—and, in some cases, insisting on—would inevitably affect payments to some degree, at least in the first year. After all, in the first year, we have a new system being implemented for the first time and many one-off tasks to undertake. We all knew that achieving the same timetable as applied under the previous CAP was a tall order but, as I said at the time, we were determined to get payments out as early as possible within the seven-month payment timetable window that Europe had laid down. As the industry has acknowledged, we all knew the risks, but we all agreed that they were worth taking.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15844, in the name of Alex Fergusson, on rural affairs. I invite members who wish to speak in the debate ...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Well, what a difference a well-timed Scottish Conservative debate and an impending election can make. Interruption. It is a l...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Alex Fergusson Con
I will later, if I have time. How to best mitigate the most damaging impact of the reforms had been the subject of intense discussion, debate and consultat...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Constitution and Economy (John Swinney) SNP
Will Mr Fergusson specify the bits of the arrangements that were put in place and approved by the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Food and Environment t...
Alex Fergusson Con
I am coming to that, because we do not need to look any further than the new information technology system that the cabinet secretary commissioned to operate...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Food and Environment (Richard Lochhead) SNP
If the findings of that esteemed report on the importance of direct payments to farmers in Scotland are as relevant today as they were many years ago, why di...
Alex Fergusson Con
The cabinet secretary will be aware that we are in Scotland now and dealing with—
Richard Lochhead SNP
Ask for powers to be devolved, then.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Order.
Alex Fergusson Con
The cabinet secretary cannot just deflect criticism of his handling of the system by looking at the UK Government. He knows full well that my party will supp...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call the cabinet secretary, Mr Lochhead, to speak to and move amendment S4M-15844.3. Cabinet secretary, you have 10 minutes—we are tight for time today. 1...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Food and Environment (Richard Lochhead) SNP
I very much welcome the opportunity to debate what is an important subject for rural Scotland—and the whole country—and to discuss the implementation of the ...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
In light of the cabinet secretary’s point about the seven-month payment timetable, will he confirm that every crofter and farmer across Scotland will receive...
Richard Lochhead SNP
That is absolutely our determination, because we want to avoid fines from Europe. If we do not have 95 per cent of payments made by 30 June, we are potential...
Alex Fergusson Con
Does the cabinet secretary think that, had we had better weather and better prices, the shambles of the IT system would have been more acceptable? Laughter.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Order.
Richard Lochhead SNP
If Mr Fergusson speaks to any farmer or crofter in Scotland, they will tell him that those are serious issues that have affected their cash flows. He might f...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
We certainly welcome yesterday’s announcement of a £200 million funding package, however late in the day it was, but it is vital for lessons to have been lea...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I, too, welcome the £200 million fund that the Scottish Government announced last night, which is to be spent on crofters and farm businesses across the coun...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Tavish Scott LD
No. Questions remain, and they are big questions. Can the Scottish Government guarantee that the £200 million will reach farmers and crofters before the end...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Tavish Scott LD
I want to make some progress. Interruption. If Mr Swinney wants to stand up and answer the questions that I have asked, I would be quite delighted to give wa...
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
To try to put some perspective on what has been going on, we should consider a couple of quotations. Today, the Scottish Tenant Farmers Association produced ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Order.
Rob Gibson SNP
What we have here is a motion that starts to discuss the problem that we face. Alex Fergusson’s motion “notes that Scottish farm income has fallen by 15% ov...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
It was the Liberals who introduced the groceries code adjudicator when in Government down south and who are calling for the groceries code adjudicator to hav...
Rob Gibson SNP
Well, we are awaiting that with great interest. In the meantime, because our farmers have less support and are getting lower commodity prices, they failed t...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Will the member take an intervention?