Committee
Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee 27 January 2016
27 Jan 2016 · S4 · Rural Affairs, Climate Change and Environment Committee
Item of business
Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2
This is a group of minor Government amendments. Amendment 46 provides that, where an application has been made under part 5 by a part 5 community body—that is, a Scottish charitable incorporated organisation, or SCIO—the name of the part 5 body as well as its address must be included on the register of applications by community bodies to buy land. Amendment 49 applies where a part 5 community body that is a body corporate with a written constitution has made an application under part 5 and then changes its address. The amendment requires the part 5 community body to notify the keeper of that change of address as soon as is reasonably practicable. Amendment 53 provides that an application for a right to buy under part 5 of the bill must include or be accompanied by information about certain matters, details of which may be set out in regulations. One of those matters is “the reasons the Part 5 community body considers that its proposals for the land satisfy the sustainable development conditions set out in section 47(2)”. Amendment 53 modifies section 45(6) to make clear that, “where the application is to buy a tenant’s interest,” the information to be provided is about how the proposals for the land satisfy the sustainable development conditions “as modified specifically by section 47(5)(a)” in relation to applications to buy a tenant’s interest. It is a minor and technical amendment for clarity. Amendment 55 is a minor amendment to correct a cross-reference in section 46. It amends section 46(6) so that it correctly refers to the views and responses received in response to an application under section 45 rather than under section 46. The effect of section 47(3)(f)(ii) is that the procedural requirements are not met if the landowner is “subject to any enforceable personal obligation ... to sell the land” except for the obligation to sell the land to the part 5 community body that made the application to buy the land. Amendment 56 provides that there is also an exception to that requirement where the obligation on the landowner is to sell the land to the third-party purchaser nominated by the part 5 community body. Amendments 57, 58 and 59 are all minor. To comply with the procedural requirements under section 47, a community body must have submitted a written request to the landowner requesting the transfer of land, and the owner must not have responded or agreed to the request. Where the community body wishes to buy a tenant’s interest, the community body is required to submit a written request to the tenant to buy the interest but, unlike the case of the request to the landowner, the tenant does not have to respond in order for an application to buy the tenant’s interest to be made. Sections 47(8)(b) and 47(8)(c) allow ministers to make regulations about the responses to those requests in circumstances where owners and tenants are taken not to have responded or agreed to those requests. Amendments 57, 58 and 59 amend those provisions so that they apply only to responses by landowners. Amendment 61 corrects a minor error in section 47(9). It amends the reference to subsection 42 so that it refers to section 42. Amendment 68 moves section 65, which is an interpretation provision for part 5, to after section 43, where it sits better. I move amendment 46. Amendment 46 agreed to. Amendments 47 to 51 moved—Aileen McLeod—and agreed to. Section 44, as amended, agreed to. After section 44 Amendment 52 moved—Aileen McLeod—and agreed to. Section 45—Right to buy: application for consent
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The Convener
SNP
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The Convener
SNP
We come to the group on the power of the keeper of the Registers of Scotland to request information and the procedure for regulation. Amendment 31, in the na...
The Minister for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Aileen McLeod)
SNP
Section 36 inserts into the Land Registration etc (Scotland) Act 2012 new section 48A, which enables regulations to be made enabling the keeper of the Regist...
The Convener
SNP
Amendment 36, in the name of Graeme Dey, has already been debated with amendment 103. I ask Graeme Dey whether he wishes to move his amendment.
Graeme Dey
SNP
My amendment would have deleted section 36, but given that we have just approved a series of amendments to section 36 and that the Scottish Government intend...
The Convener
SNP
We move to group 2, on guidance on engaging communities in decisions relating to land: purpose of engagement, content of guidance etc. Amendment 13, in the n...
Sarah Boyack
Lab
It is clear that new opportunities will flow from the guidance that is envisaged for this part of the bill, and it is to be hoped that owners and communities...
The Convener
SNP
Pardon me—
Sarah Boyack
Lab
Sorry, have I got that wrong? It is amendment 108. I am speaking about the guidance on engaging communities in decisions, as set out in the briefing paper th...
The Convener
SNP
That is okay, but you said amendment 102.
Sarah Boyack
Lab
Sorry—I meant amendment 108. From the earlier discussion members will have been able to tell that my voice is going, but clearly it must be more than that. T...
Aileen McLeod
SNP
In drawing up the guidance, ministers will consult a wide range of stakeholders, and the guidance will define the different sorts of engagement that will be ...
Michael Russell
SNP
I heard what the minister said and I am broadly content with amendment 37—with a caveat, as she will expect, about the term “relevant human rights” in propos...
Graeme Dey
SNP
I welcome the clarity that the minister provided on amendment 108 because at first glance it seemed to have merit, but I am content with what I have heard.
Alex Fergusson
Con
I am sorry to take away from the air of consensus that there seems to be here, but I have concerns about this group of amendments. I share the minister’s res...
The Convener
SNP
I ask the minister to respond to that point before Sarah Boyack winds up.
Aileen McLeod
SNP
Do you want me to comment on some of the other points that have been raised or just specifically Mr Fergusson’s point?
The Convener
SNP
Will you comment on Alex Fergusson’s point?
Aileen McLeod
SNP
I say to Mr Fergusson that the things that we are adding do not move away from the intention of what we are trying to do in part 5 of the bill to further sus...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you for that, minister. I ask Sarah Boyack to wind up and say whether she wishes to press or withdraw amendment 13.
Sarah Boyack
Lab
We have had a useful debate. To be clear, amendment 13 seeks the community’s agreement; it does not say that that must be secured—that would be a higher bar ...
The Convener
SNP
The question is, that amendment 13 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Convener
SNP
There will be a division. For Beamish, Claudia (South Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Against Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Fergusson, ...
The Convener
SNP
The result of the division is: For 2, Against 7, Abstentions 0. Amendment 13 disagreed to. Amendment 37 moved—Aileen McLeod.
The Convener
SNP
The question is, that amendment 37 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Convener
SNP
There will be a division. For Beamish, Claudia (South Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Gibson, Rob (Caithn...
The Convener
SNP
The result of the division is: For 8, Against 1, Abstentions 0. Amendment 37 agreed to. Amendment 81 not moved. Amendment 38 moved—Aileen McLeod.
The Convener
SNP
The question is, that amendment 38 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No.
The Convener
SNP
There will be a division. For Beamish, Claudia (South Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Gibson, Rob (Caithn...
The Convener
SNP
The result of the division is: For 8, Against 1, Abstentions 0. Amendment 38 agreed to. Amendment 108 not moved. Amendment 39 moved—Aileen McLeod—and agre...