Committee
Public Petitions Committee 01 March 2016
01 Mar 2016 · S4 · Public Petitions Committee
Item of business
Continued Petitions
NHS Centre for Integrative Care (PE1568)
I agree with Elaine Smith. It is an issue that I would like to see included in our legacy paper. There are a number of decisions that are still to be made by Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board. Lanarkshire NHS Board’s decision and the way in which the board made it has come under some scrutiny. We were assured that patients would continue to receive a level of care commensurate with their illness, but I believe that there is a letter in today’s Herald that raises a case where it was initially attempted to refer someone to the CIC, but it took eight months for them to be referred on to a consultant to be dealt with. There are clearly issues around patient-centred care. Patients may feel that they would benefit from going to the CIC, but Lanarkshire NHS Board has taken a decision to withdraw supported funding for any future patients, and that raises questions about the quality of care that patients receive and their confidence in the treatment that they receive. There have been some interesting follow-up submissions, as was the case with the previous petition that we considered. There has been some interesting analysis. One of the submissions goes into the cost benefits of homoeopathic treatments in particular, and it gives a startling indication of the savings that are being made for the NHS—not those that could be made, but those that are being made. More work can be done on the matter. I would be keen to pass on some of the submissions that we have received to the Scottish Government and to NHS Scotland to ask them for their views, to try and disprove some of the evidence that we have received for today’s meeting and to give us some clear indications. If we continue to rely on health boards funding the CIC, the danger is that it could always be pulled at any time that health boards decide no longer to send patients to the centre. It is about trying to preserve a centre that is delivering for the whole of Scotland, although we are in effect relying on one health board to pick up the costs for it. It is clear that, at some point, Greater Glasgow and Clyde NHS Board may decide to withdraw those services for patients who feel that they would benefit from the treatment that the centre provides.
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The Convener
Lab
PE1568, by Catherine Hughes, is on the funding of, access to and promotion of the NHS centre for integrative care. Elaine Smith is staying with us for consid...
Elaine Smith
Lab
I was just going to listen to the committee’s thoughts about the evidence session and about how you were intending to take the matter forward. I think that i...
John Wilson
Ind
I agree with Elaine Smith. It is an issue that I would like to see included in our legacy paper. There are a number of decisions that are still to be made by...
Hanzala Malik (Glasgow) (Lab)
Lab
Dr Kohli made a very gallant case for why the decision was made, but I failed to grasp why it was made when all the witnesses agreed that the patients were h...
Jackson Carlaw
Con
I think that that was another slightly unsatisfactory evidence session. As Hanzala Malik has said, it was difficult not to arrive at the conclusion that the ...
The Convener
Lab
I agree with that. I think that there is a large body of work that the next health committee could look at. Questions have been raised because of the evidenc...
John Wilson
Ind
I stand to be corrected, but it is my understanding that the CIC was supposed to become the national pain clinic. Therefore, there are other issues at stake....
Jackson Carlaw
Con
To respond to John Wilson, the one thing that I thought we gleaned from the evidence session was that the national pain relief centre would not be contingent...
John Wilson
Ind
I agree that the witnesses told us that the national pain centre would not be contingent on the existence of the centre for integrative care, but I would lik...
The Convener
Lab
That is a very valid point. If there is to be only one centre to serve the whole of Scotland, we cannot have the local health board footing the bill for it a...
Elaine Smith
Lab
On that point, there was also concern that the national pain centre might exist instead of the centre for integrative care, so that is another issue.
The Convener
Lab
Okay. We need to get clarification on those issues, which requires us to keep the petition open in order to pursue them. Members have made a number of sugges...