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Meeting of the Parliament 03 March 2016

03 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Families Affected by Murder and Culpable Homicide
Allard, Christian SNP North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I thank Graeme Pearson for bringing the subject to the chamber for debate. I read his motion, although I did not sign it. In his speech, he only really talked about the motion at the end. I absolutely agree with what he said in the rest of his speech. I know that he has vast experience of the matter, and he opened our eyes to what families have to endure, and particularly the economic burden.

As I said, I very much agree with most of what Graeme Pearson said, but I am not so sure about the motion. In the Justice Committee, of which I am a member, we have done a lot of work over the years—for example, in our consideration of the Victims and Witnesses (Scotland) Bill in 2014 and, more recently, the Victims’ Rights (Scotland) Regulations 2015—to improve the support that is provided by various organisations within our justice system.

I agree that, for too long, victims have been treated as and made to feel like bystanders in the criminal justice system, but the recent changes that we all voted on in the Parliament will see more consideration given to the rights and needs of not only victims but witnesses of crime. It is important to realise that witnesses need support, too, and the Government’s new legislation, which the Parliament voted for, will improve those people’s experience in the system. The rights of victims and their families is always at the heart of everything that we do in the Justice Committee.

I am sure that the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs will talk about the recent launch of the victims code for Scotland. The code is great news and it has been applauded by Victim Support Scotland. It is a move in the right direction, and I know that Victim Support Scotland is also delighted with the support for services for young victims and witnesses of crime. The victims code for Scotland sets out the rights of victims of crime and who to contact for help and advice. Those rights have been put in place through the Victims and Witnesses (Scotland) Act 2014 and the Victims’ Rights (Scotland) Regulations 2015. People can find the code and the information that it contains online.

Susan Gallagher, acting chief executive of Victim Support Scotland said that the new code is an important step. She said:

“VSS warmly welcomes the introduction of the victims code. Victims and witnesses now have access to information which highlights what their legal rights are in the aftermath of crime. It is a huge step forward on the journey to ensuring victims have a role in the Criminal Justice System in Scotland.”

We want to continue on the journey that we are on. I agree with a lot of what Victim Support Scotland said, and particularly its comment that

“There is still a long way to go before victims are at the heart of the Criminal Justice System but the code provides us that step closer.”

It is a question of taking that first step.

I would like to talk about the many family liaison officers of Police Scotland who are doing a fantastic job. Family liaison officers have multiple roles and they must have the expertise and skills to manage those. We have to thank them for that. We also have many third sector organisations providing valuable support.

When we discussed the Community Justice (Scotland) Bill, we heard that the system is crowded and Graeme Pearson’s motion talks about streamlining this patchwork of organisations. When I hear that, I always respond that the fantastic mosaic of third sector organisations reflects the diversity of our rural and urban communities and enriches the quality of the support given to families across Scotland.

As we heard during the passage of the Victims and Witnesses (Scotland) Act 2014, the then cabinet secretary, Kenny MacAskill, decided not to opt for a victims commissioner. He said:

“Given the excellent work that is being done by our victim support organisations in Scotland”—[Official Report, 19 June 2013; c 21319.]

it would be an unnecessary extra level of expensive bureaucracy using resources that could be better spent. I am quite happy where we are.

In conclusion, let me be controversial. Apathy and a lack of feeling, emotion and interest is recognised by many as the most common reason why someone would commit the act of ending the life of another human being. It is that apathy that makes us stand today to speak up for the people who have experienced the death of a family member through murder and culpable homicide. We empathise with the victims and their family members because it could happen to us all.

My last thought is for the other family—the family that will suffer because one member of that family has committed such a crime. As a society, we need to reflect on this: we do not choose what members of our family do and we are likely to suffer the consequences of whatever has happened.

12:47  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S4M-15486, in the name of Graeme Pearson, on support for families affected by murder and cu...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful to the Parliament for giving me the opportunity to speak to the motion in support of families who are affected by murder and culpable homicide....
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We turn to the open debate. I ask for speeches of four minutes, please. 12:41
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I thank Graeme Pearson for bringing the subject to the chamber for debate. I read his motion, although I did not sign it. In his speech, he only really talke...
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab) Lab
I add my thanks to Graeme Pearson for securing today’s debate on a very difficult, but important, subject. I, too, praise the work of the Moira Fund and Peta...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I, too, am very pleased to participate in this members’ business debate, and I, too, thank Graeme Pearson for securing parliamentary time for such an importa...
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
I also congratulate Graeme Pearson on securing the debate. I add my support and praise for the list of organisations that he referred to in both his motion a...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Before I invite the minister to respond to the debate, I advise members that this is Graeme Pearson’s last member’s debate and that his speech was possibly h...
The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
I thank Graeme Pearson for raising this important issue. I had guessed—correctly, as it turns out—that Mr Pearson’s speech would be his final one. I say with...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I add my best wishes to Annabel Goldie and Graeme Pearson, who are standing down from Parliament. 13:10 Meeting suspended. 14:30 On resuming—