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Meeting of the Parliament 02 March 2016

02 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Health
Marra, Jenny Lab North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I thank Jackson Carlaw for his intervention, but I was more implying his disagreement with our proposal for the extra 1p on income tax.

Labour, the Liberals and now the Scottish National Party have made education a priority for any additional revenue, for right and proper reasons. However, given the challenges and problems that exist in our health service, are we spending enough on our NHS and care services? The evidence that is before us suggests that we are not.

We all share the starting point that health spending should be protected in the Scottish budget. The Scottish Parliament spends a third of the budget on our health service, which is a considerable sum, but we still face persistent and seemingly intransigent problems with ill health, poverty and disease in Scotland. I am sure that every MSP is being told that the general practitioner surgery in their local area is struggling to recruit doctors. Lists are being closed to patients, health boards are stepping in to run general practice and the experts tell us that the very existence of general practice is under threat. In my home city of Dundee, a doctor’s surgery in one of the most deprived communities in Scotland is teetering on the brink of survival as the recruitment crisis strangles GP provision, threatening the very existence of a GP practice in that local area.

Recruitment is a huge challenge that health boards and the Government are grappling with. Posts across the country remain unfilled—many for months—with no sign of them being filled in the near future and services are having to be altered to ensure patient safety as a result. The Government’s cut in training places for doctors is coming home to roost in our health service. It was a short-sighted decision and I hope that that mistake will not be made again.

We have a huge number of doctors training in this country who then leave to go abroad. There is no guarantee that the trends of previous years, in which doctors have returned to our shores to serve the NHS, will continue. That is one of the biggest recruitment challenges, and it will need some clever thinking over the next session of Parliament as we all know the effect that it is having on our local services.

It is now a full year since Shona Robison made the pledge to abolish delayed discharge from our hospitals within a year. Sadly, she has not been able to achieve that. According to the statistics that were released a couple of weeks ago, there has been a welcome improvement in accident and emergency waiting times, but we still see more than 50 patients waiting for more than eight hours at the Queen Elizabeth university hospital in Glasgow.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15766, in the name of Jenny Marra, on health. I call Jenny Marra to speak to and move the motion. 14:40
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
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Jenny Marra Lab
I thank Jackson Carlaw for his intervention, but I was more implying his disagreement with our proposal for the extra 1p on income tax. Labour, the Liberals...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
The member talks about hospitals and local services. Do we need to have a shift in health spending towards a more preventative approach, including in GP serv...
Jenny Marra Lab
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The Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Sport (Shona Robison) SNP
I am very happy to take part in the debate, which provides a timely opportunity to acknowledge the commitment and dedication of health and social care staff ...
Alex Rowley (Cowdenbeath) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I can give you back time for interventions.
Shona Robison SNP
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Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shona Robison SNP
Let me make some progress. This Government will continue to work with the professions to support staff across the NHS in adopting improved clinical practice...
Neil Bibby Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shona Robison SNP
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Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shona Robison SNP
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Neil Bibby Lab
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Shona Robison SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Order, please.
Shona Robison SNP
—all of which have been invested back in front-line services. We will continue to invest unprecedented levels of resources in the health service, and we expe...
Neil Findlay Lab
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Shona Robison SNP
No, I will not just now. I have taken two interventions. Members: Ooh!
Neil Findlay Lab
There is plenty time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Order, please.
Shona Robison SNP
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Neil Findlay Lab
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Shona Robison SNP
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Neil Bibby Lab
Did the cabinet secretary intervene?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Order, please.
Shona Robison SNP
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