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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 01 March 2016

01 Mar 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Work, Wages and Wellbeing
Pentland, John Lab Motherwell and Wishaw Watch on SPTV

In general, I welcome the recommendations of this report, which back up many of the things that Scottish Labour has been saying for some time. The Scottish Government has also made supportive noises but has not always taken opportunities when they are presented. I hope that this report will be a spur to move beyond lip service in such areas.

Having said that, I acknowledge that the big obstacle to the report’s first recommendation—which is for better research and improved data that can be used to establish a fair work index—is not the Scottish Government but the UK-wide Office for National Statistics. As the Scottish Trades Union Congress noted,

“the Scottish Government plays the weak hand dealt by ONS very well; it presents ONS data in an accessible and up to date fashion”.

Serious pressure needs to be applied at UK level to improve the quality of labour force statistics and enable the Scottish dimension to be properly explored.

The Scottish Government needs to have a clear idea about how research and analysis should be extended. Perhaps, then, it is just as well that the next recommendation—to ask the chief economic adviser for advice on what research would be useful, and to ask the Scottish Government what it would do with such research—gives the Scottish Government a steer on that.

I am glad that the committee

“believes that scope exists to place stronger emphasis on the Living Wage and fair work practices through the public procurement process”.

It is just a pity that the opportunity was missed in the Procurement Reform (Scotland) Bill. If that opportunity had been taken, we might now be in a stronger position and not merely encouraging public bodies to explore options.

Mental health needs much greater support. Unfortunately, that is an area where the Scottish Government’s progress is disappointing in several respects, including funding, waiting times, young people, and workers in high-stress employment such as in the national health service. Better support for mental health services is not just the right thing to do; it is an important factor in other respects. We need monitoring of mental health in the workplace to become more effective. Otherwise, we are more likely to suffer economic and organisational failures as a consequence of not addressing the problems of mental health in the workplace. Temporary contracts, zero-hours contracts and lack of job security contribute to the stress of employment. Secure and stable working arrangements should be the default, not the exception.

I welcome the approach to the Department for Work and Pensions but, again, it is a pity that the opportunity of the Procurement Reform (Scotland) Bill was allowed to pass by.

The action against and clarification of “exploitative” zero-hours or short-hours contracts is both welcome and overdue. As a trade unionist, I oppose the Tory attack on workers’ rights in the Trade Union Bill and I regret that the Scottish Parliament was not allowed to take a stronger stand against it.

l believe that good industrial relations are in the best interests of workers and employers, so any help that can be given to get employers to see the light is very welcome. Like others, I look forward to the minister’s response to the recommendations in the report.

15:07  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15760, in the name of Murdo Fraser, on work, wages and wellbeing in the Scottish labour market. I call Mu...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
On behalf of the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee, I express our gratitude for the opportunity to debate what for us has been an extensive, exciting and...
The Cabinet Secretary for Fair Work, Skills and Training (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP
I, too, thank the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee for the report and for inviting me to give evidence for the inquiry. I listened with interest to Murd...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
The minister mentioned inappropriate use of zero-hours contracts. Will she define the fair use of zero-hours contracts?
Roseanna Cunningham SNP
There has been quite a discussion about that. I am not quite sure, because I am not up on my football, but I think that I have seen Ann Budge from Hearts mak...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
I can give you an extra minute.
Roseanna Cunningham SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. We do not yet have Scotland-specific figures, but the Equality and Human Rights Commission has reported that, across Britain, ...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee for an important and timely report that builds on the work that the committee did previously on underemploy...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP
I hope that Iain Gray will acknowledge that the data that comes out is UK-wide data that is broken down for Scotland. The statistics are official statistics ...
Iain Gray Lab
I accept that, but I will make two points. First, the report makes it clear that the Scottish Government pays the Office for National Statistics to do additi...
Gavin Brown (Lothian) (Con) Con
The Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee has produced a pretty comprehensive and effective report. The committee took a huge amount of evidence, with 11 pan...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We turn to the open debate. I am afraid that there is not much time in hand, and speeches should be of four minutes. 14:50
Gordon MacDonald (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) SNP
The overall employment situation in Scotland continues to improve. The latest figures highlight that we have record levels of employment and that those level...
Gavin Brown Con
Will the member give way?
Gordon MacDonald SNP
No—I have only four minutes. The Poverty Alliance continued: “It is also difficult to imagine how anyone is meant to manage their finances week to week wit...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the opportunity to participate in the debate on an important report. Regardless of the previous speaker’s characterisation of it, the report was ma...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I wanted to congratulate the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee and its convener on their choice of title for their report, but Gavin Brown has prevented ...
John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab) Lab
In general, I welcome the recommendations of this report, which back up many of the things that Scottish Labour has been saying for some time. The Scottish G...
Richard Lyle (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
As a member of the Parliament’s Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee, I am delighted to speak in this debate on work, wages and wellbeing in the Scottish la...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call John Wilson. I ask you to keep to your four minutes please, Mr Wilson. 15:12
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
First, I declare an interest as a member of Unite the union and as a former director of the Scottish Low Pay Unit. I commend the Economy, Energy and Tourism ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We turn to closing speeches. I remind members who participated in the debate that they should be here for closing speeches. 15:16
Gavin Brown Con
This has been an interesting debate. I will return to some of the excellent contributions that were made, but before I do that I will pick up on two points. ...
Christian Allard SNP
I was talking about taxation and the high road and the low road, and I gave some European Union examples. Does Gavin Brown not agree that whereas France has ...
Gavin Brown Con
In all honesty, I genuinely do not understand the point that Christian Allard is making. I point out a host of areas in which successive UK Governments of di...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As members have said, work, wages and wellbeing matter to us all. What people do when they get to work, how much and how they are paid, how they are treated ...
Roseanna Cunningham SNP
I thank the committee again for its valuable piece of work, and I thank all the people who took the time to give evidence. I will send the committee my respo...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Joan McAlpine to wind up the debate on behalf of the Economy, Energy and Tourism Committee. 15:30
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
This has been a worthwhile debate on a worthwhile committee report, and that is important given the issues at stake and the level of engagement that the comm...