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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 25 February 2016

25 Feb 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Criminal Verdicts (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

I am pleased to participate in this stage 1 debate on the Criminal Verdicts (Scotland) Bill. Michael McMahon has waited some considerable time for the bill to come before the Parliament. I believe—and I think that he confirmed—that it was as far back as 2007 when his first member’s bill on the subject fell at dissolution. As members have said, in this session, scrutiny of the proposals was delayed for a couple of years as the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill, which had provisions whose scope overlapped with the Criminal Verdicts (Scotland) Bill, completed its parliamentary passage.

Having had experience of how much focus and commitment are required to introduce a member’s bill, I commend Michael McMahon and pay tribute to his resolve and his continued efforts to generate discussion and debate about the three-verdict system by introducing the Criminal Verdicts (Scotland) Bill.

Although the bill is short, the changes to Scots law that it seeks to implement are substantial and should not be underestimated. It has two primary aims: to remove the not proven verdict as an option in criminal trials and to change the rules on the number of jurors who must support a guilty verdict, which the member in charge has rightly recognised as a connected issue.

When the member gave evidence to the Justice Committee, he presented many valid points in favour of abolition. In addition, I acknowledge that some stakeholders consider the three-verdict system to have had its day, and I fully understand and appreciate that there are individuals in those stakeholder groups who for varying reasons, including deeply emotive and personal ones, argue passionately for the abolition of the not proven verdict.

However, I remain hugely concerned about the piecemeal approach that decision makers have taken to changing elements of the Scottish criminal justice system, especially following the corroboration debacle, in which abolition was proposed without consideration of the implications of such a change in the round. As the Faculty of Advocates argued in its consultation response, the reforms to the three-verdict system

“should be considered in the context of a review of the criminal justice system as a whole”.

The Law Society of Scotland summed up the situation by pointing out in its consultation response that, as far back as 1994, it had argued that

“the three verdict system should be retained in that this system was part of the organic whole which constituted the method of determination of guilt in Scottish criminal courts.”

Put simply, it is impossible to amputate one part of the system without considering the impact on the whole, and a failure to consider that could result in unintended consequences that might make the problem that we are trying to remedy worse.

The Scottish Government has stated that it is

“open to the possibility of the Not Proven verdict being removed”,

but it has also said that it will take forward Lord Bonomy’s recommendation that jury research be carried out before any reforms are implemented. The Bonomy review indicated that that could take around two years. I welcome that approach, but I note with considerable concern that jury directions in certain sexual offence cases are being placed on a statutory footing before that research has been completed.

As Michael McMahon said in his evidence to the committee, the not proven verdict

“has always been there in the background; it has never gone away.”—[Official Report, Justice Committee, 19 January 2016; c 12.]

As a result, the opportunity that his bill presented to scrutinise the issue, especially given recent developments in the criminal justice system, has been worth while and appreciated, for which I thank Mr McMahon. However, the Scottish Conservatives are not convinced that there is a compelling or persuasive need for reform at this time, although we await the findings of the jury research. For that reason, I do not support the bill’s general principles, and I confirm that we will not support the bill at decision time.

16:33  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15429, in the name of Michael McMahon, on the Criminal Verdicts (Scotland) Bill. 15:59
Michael McMahon (Uddingston and Bellshill) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open today’s debate on the Criminal Verdicts (Scotland) Bill. Today we debate and vote on whether the Parliament agrees to the general princi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Christine Grahame to speak on behalf of the Justice Committee. 16:09
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, as you say, I am speaking on behalf of the Justice Committee and not in a personal capacity, but first I personally want to commend Michae...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
First, I would like to thank Michael McMahon and the non-Government bills unit for their work on this legislation. Like other members, I commend Michael McMa...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
As Michael McMahon said, I lodged an amendment to his motion, and I am disappointed that the Presiding Officer did not select it for debate. I will neverthel...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased to participate in this stage 1 debate on the Criminal Verdicts (Scotland) Bill. Michael McMahon has waited some considerable time for the bill t...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
It has been a rollercoaster ride since I joined the Justice Committee in 2013. We have scrutinised many pieces of legislation, some of which we stopped, some...
Michael McMahon Lab
Will the member give way?
Christian Allard SNP
I am sorry, but I have only a few minutes. Perhaps the member can address the issue later. I would have been happy to consider abolishing the not proven ver...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We now move to closing speeches. 16:38
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con
I thank members for the constructive debate this afternoon. It has been a pleasure to take part in it. Like others, I begin by paying tribute to Michael McM...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As is evident from this afternoon’s debate, changes to elements of criminal justice procedure are famously difficult to achieve and sometimes take decades—an...
Michael Matheson SNP
The debate has provided Parliament with a useful opportunity to look at the merits and shortcomings of having a three-verdict system in which two of the verd...
Christine Grahame SNP
This follows on from what Cameron Buchanan said. If the not proven verdict were to disappear, the abolition would also pertain when it is not a jury making t...
Michael Matheson SNP
Of course, and that is one of the issues that we can consider when we frame the research. Using real jurors also carries a risk of exposing the system or in...
Michael McMahon Lab
I thank the staff of the non-Government bills unit, whose assistance has been invaluable to me over the past number of years. I am also grateful to the peop...
Christian Allard SNP
I thank the member for taking my intervention. He is not the first person to have quoted Victim Support Scotland. I agree with him about the not proven verdi...
Michael McMahon Lab
That is one piece of evidence, but the majority of responses to the consultation suggested otherwise. That is all evidence that allows people to determine wh...
Michael McMahon Lab
I am sorry—I will not take an intervention. At present, a jury in Scotland can return a verdict of guilty when at least eight of its members are in favour o...