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Meeting of the Parliament 04 February 2016

04 Feb 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Watt, Maureen SNP Aberdeen South and North Kincardine Watch on SPTV

The conference was held in October or November last year, and we set up the network of experts in the field. They will feed in to the next part of the framework for our alcohol policy. Obviously, that will happen after the election.

The MESAS—monitoring and evaluating Scotland’s alcohol strategy—evaluation of the framework has shown that our policy is having a positive impact. Most recently, in November, the report entitled, “Four Nations: How evidence-based are alcohol policies and programmes across the UK?”, which assessed the approaches that have been taken across the UK, acknowledged that Scotland has led the way on implementing evidence-based alcohol policy. The report highlights Scotland’s leading role—for example, in implementation of ABIs, in lowering the drink-drive limit, and in increased access to treatment.

The report also highlights Scotland’s approach in pursuit of effective evidence-based pricing policy. The evidence on the link between affordability and harm is clear, which is why we will continue to make the case for minimum unit pricing.

We know that we are taking the right approach, and we have seen improvements—we have seen a particularly positive shift among young people. The latest figures show that the proportion of 13 to 15-year-olds who reported drinking alcohol in the past week is at its lowest level since 1990. I hope that that trend will continue.

In addition to addressing the potential impact on our young people, tackling alcohol-related harm has the potential to address Scotland’s wider health inequalities. Although alcohol-related issues impact on all socioeconomic groups, greatest harm is experienced by people who live in the most deprived areas. Inequality in alcohol-related harm has narrowed in recent years, but there is still more to be done.

We have a track record on delivering on alcohol, but we know that there is still a way to go. That is why later this year we will introduce the next phase of the alcohol framework. It will build on the progress that we have made so far by ensuring that measures are embedded, by developing what is already in place and by considering where we might want to take a different approach. As part of that work, we will examine the measures in Dr Simpson’s bill and look at how they might be developed or adapted and potentially incorporated in the next phase of the alcohol framework.

I have already touched on the advertising aspects of the bill. Another measure in the bill that we will take forward is that entitled “Applications for, or to vary, premises licence”. We have already committed to reviewing the relevant regulations, which are in secondary legislation—the Licensing (Procedure) (Scotland) Regulations 2007. Updating those does not require primary legislation. We also plan to examine in more detail the evidence from pilot schemes in Fife and Newcastle on alcohol awareness training as an alternative to fixed-penalty notices. As well as those measures from Dr Simpson, I am happy to listen to ideas from all members who are in the chamber—and those who are not—that might help to tackle alcohol-related harm.

Although the Government supports the intention behind Dr Simpson’s bill, we believe that the issues that it addresses will be better addressed via the next phase of the alcohol framework. I therefore ask members not to support the Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill progressing to stage 2.

17:36  

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
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Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
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Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab) Lab
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The Minister for Public Health (Maureen Watt) SNP
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Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Maureen Watt SNP
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Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You must close, please.
Graeme Pearson Lab
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Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now move to closing speeches. 17:51
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Presiding Officer, there has been a 300 per cent increase in alcohol-related liver disease mortality over the last 30 years and over 35,000 alcohol-related s...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jackson Carlaw Con
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Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
The member is closing.
Jackson Carlaw Con
Attitudes have to change, and it will take more than I have heard from the Government so far during this session of Parliament to make that happen. 17:55
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jenny Marra Lab
No—I will not at the moment, thank you. It seems that the Government has placed all its eggs in one basket, looking for a big-hit public health policy and t...
Maureen Watt SNP
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Jenny Marra Lab
Will the minister give way?
Maureen Watt SNP
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Dr Simpson Lab
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Maureen Watt SNP
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The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
You need to start to wind up, minister.
Maureen Watt SNP
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The Presiding Officer NPA
You really need to wind up, minister.
Maureen Watt SNP
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