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Meeting of the Parliament 04 February 2016

04 Feb 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
Watt, Maureen SNP Aberdeen South and North Kincardine Watch on SPTV

As members are aware, the Scottish Government does not support the bill progressing to stage 2, and I note from its stage 1 report that the majority of the Health and Sport Committee agree with the Government. I welcome the detailed consideration of and report by the committee. Its conclusion that the bill should not progress to stage 2 is welcome. The committee has seen my response to its report.

I would like to thank Richard Simpson for raising the issues and for his huge commitment to the subject over the years. We welcome the intent behind the bill, because although we have seen some improvements in recent years, we know that we still have far to go.

I want to start by outlining the journey on which we have been. We recognised that the scale of alcohol-related harm in Scotland requires a bold response, so we did not shy away from making one. We have taken considerable and comprehensive action through our alcohol framework. The framework contains more than 40 measures; I will highlight some of them.

We introduced the quantity discount ban, which led to an estimated reduction of 2.6 per cent in alcohol sales. We legislated to ban irresponsible promotions, and we have made a record investment of more than £319 million since 2008. We introduced a lower drink-drive limit, we have improved substance misuse education through curriculum for excellence, and we have introduced a nationwide alcohol brief interventions programme, with more than 569,000 ABIs having been delivered to date.

The framework is aligned with World Health Organization priorities and is well regarded by people who work in the field here and internationally. In recognition of our approach to alcohol policy, the Global Alcohol Policy Alliance chose Scotland to host its conference last October. We welcomed representatives from more than 60 countries, who were keen to hear of the work that we had undertaken and to learn from our approaches.

As we have heard, some of Richard Simpson’s proposals relate to advertising. The conference last year provided me with an opportunity to meet a number of international experts. We recognise that advertising is one of the key areas in tackling alcohol-related harm, so we have since formed a network of experts from the conference to look at advertising and sponsorship. That work will feed into the next phase of the alcohol framework to inform our future approach. We therefore welcome the intention behind the advertising measures in the bill.

Members will be aware that part of control of advertising is reserved to Westminster. We have pressed the United Kingdom Government to do more in that area, but in the absence of co-operation we agree with the Health and Sport Committee that the time is right to give further consideration to regulation in Scotland of alcohol advertising and sponsorship. As I have outlined, that work is under way.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-14673, in the name of Richard Simpson, on the Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Sc...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open the stage 1 debate on my Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill, although I regret the brevity of the t...
Duncan McNeil (Greenock and Inverclyde) (Lab) Lab
I want to begin with some verse—a risky business, I suppose. “Oh, thou demon Drink, thou fell destroyer; Thou curse of society, and its greatest annoyer. ...
The Minister for Public Health (Maureen Watt) SNP
As members are aware, the Scottish Government does not support the bill progressing to stage 2, and I note from its stage 1 report that the majority of the H...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Can the minister clarify for Parliament when she expects her group of experts to report, and when will the proposals that will be drawn up on the back of tha...
Maureen Watt SNP
The conference was held in October or November last year, and we set up the network of experts in the field. They will feed in to the next part of the framew...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I speak on behalf of the Scottish Labour Party and in support of the Alcohol (Licensing, Public Health and Criminal Justice) (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. I ac...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You must close, please.
Graeme Pearson Lab
I would like to think that, by the end of the debate—short as it is—there will be support for the general principles of the bill at stage 1 so that it can be...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I commend Richard Simpson for the tenacity that he has shown over almost four years since he lodged a draft proposal for a member’s bill to prevent and tackl...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
As I am not a member of the Health and Sport Committee, members may be surprised to see me speaking. I would like to put it on the record that the deputy con...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now move to closing speeches. 17:51
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Presiding Officer, there has been a 300 per cent increase in alcohol-related liver disease mortality over the last 30 years and over 35,000 alcohol-related s...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jackson Carlaw Con
No, I will not. We have a difficulty because we do not doubt Richard Simpson’s commitment over a great period—as he said, he was motivated to introduce the ...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
The member is closing.
Jackson Carlaw Con
Attitudes have to change, and it will take more than I have heard from the Government so far during this session of Parliament to make that happen. 17:55
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is with great regret that I rise to close the debate on behalf of the Labour Party. As Jackson Carlaw powerfully put it, alcohol continues to be one of th...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jenny Marra Lab
No—I will not at the moment, thank you. It seems that the Government has placed all its eggs in one basket, looking for a big-hit public health policy and t...
Maureen Watt SNP
I am grateful to parliamentary colleagues for their contributions to what has been an interesting, if short, debate. Members have complained about how short ...
Jenny Marra Lab
Will the minister give way?
Maureen Watt SNP
Not at the moment. We are doing lots. On the inequalities issue that Graeme Pearson highlighted, I note that the ratio for alcohol-related mortality rates b...
Dr Simpson Lab
I do not deny the progress that has been made since 2001—indeed, I will refer to that when I sum up—but I have a major concern about the budget, in which the...
Maureen Watt SNP
The member will be aware that some health boards were not passing on the justice-related money to the ADPs. We know that health boards can make up that fundi...
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
You need to start to wind up, minister.
Maureen Watt SNP
We know about the pilot projects in Newcastle and in Fife. We are concerned that the widespread use of container marking would be disproportionate and we are...
The Presiding Officer NPA
You really need to wind up, minister.
Maureen Watt SNP
—and everybody should go and look at what Aberdeen has managed to do. It used to be a place where people would not go for a night out, and now it is very muc...