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Meeting of the Parliament 03 February 2016

03 Feb 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill: Stage 1
Swinney, John SNP Perthshire North Watch on SPTV

Last week, I introduced the Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill for 2016-17, which will implement the draft budget that I set out in December. I welcome the report of the Finance Committee, and I will formally respond to it in advance of stage 3, as agreed with the committee.

The budget that is before Parliament today is a budget that will promote growth in the economy and reform public services. It will ensure that the maximum impact is generated from our expenditure and that decisions on revenues raised reflect our principles-based approach to taxation.

Public spending in Scotland continues to face significant challenges, as another real-terms reduction has been applied to our total departmental expenditure limit for 2016-17. Looking ahead, the settlement that we received in the United Kingdom spending review will mean that the Scottish budget will continue to fall in real terms in every year until the end of this decade.

The financial context is also set by the continued pressure on household incomes. Since its election, the Government has been determined to protect household incomes, particularly for low earners. Our longer-term financial decisions are influenced by the expectation that we will get further powers from what will be the Scotland Act 2016. In December, I said that the Government would set out its longer-term intentions on use of those new powers before Parliament is dissolved for the election. To use those powers, we need a fiscal framework that delivers on the Smith commission; it must be a framework that is faithful to that agreement and fair to Scotland.

I met the Chief Secretary to the Treasury again this week, and work is going on, as I speak, to try to reach an agreement, but I must make it clear to Parliament that there is a long way to go; there is significant difference between our respective views and time is short to reach an agreement. On one point, I want to be absolutely definitive: I will sign only a deal that is fair to Scotland and is consistent with the principles that were agreed by the Smith commission. I will not sign a deal that is harmful to the interests of the people of Scotland.

The budget provides the resources that are necessary to deliver a strong and sustainable economy while tackling economic inequality. It delivers an extensive capital programme that will support our economy, enhance our social infrastructure and help to address climate change. It takes forward a bold and ambitious programme of public sector reform, together with our delivery partners, to ensure the sustainability and quality of our services, and it delivers on our commitments to the people of Scotland at a time of continued pressure on household incomes.

In the December budget statement, the Government proposed a Scottish rate of income tax for the first time. The limited nature of the income tax power that is currently available to the Scottish Parliament allows only for a single rate to be set and then applied to all three income tax bands, which means that any increase on the wealthiest taxpayers would also apply to those on the lowest incomes. The proposals from other parties to increase income tax by 1p next year would hit the taxpayers who are least able to pay.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15522, in the name of John Swinney, on the Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill. 14:40
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Finance, Constitution and Economy (John Swinney) SNP
Last week, I introduced the Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill for 2016-17, which will implement the draft budget that I set out in December. I welcome the report...
Willie Rennie (Mid Scotland and Fife) (LD) LD
How does that comment match the comment that John Swinney made to the Finance Committee last month? He said: “I view the Scottish rate of income tax as a pr...
John Swinney SNP
If Mr Rennie had been listening, he would know that what I said was that the proposal to increase income tax by 1p next year would hit the taxpayers who are ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Would the cabinet secretary reflect on the fact that teachers are doing their own photocopying and buying jotters for the classroom because there are no reso...
John Swinney SNP
I want to say to teachers and public service workers the length and breadth of the country, who have had to endure pay constraints because of the austerity p...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order. Let us hear the Deputy First Minister.
John Swinney SNP
I am only helpfully going to dismantle Labour’s proposals, so they should be quiet and listen. If the rebate is a tax relief, it is outside the powers of th...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Mr Swinney’s speech is very reminiscent of what we heard from his back benchers yesterday, which was all about detail—fine aspects of detail. Interruption.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order. Let us hear Ms Baillie.
Jackie Baillie Lab
Let me say to John Swinney that it is, to be frank, an excuse for not addressing the question of principle. I want to know what he thinks about the principle...
John Swinney SNP
That was a very revealing intervention, because the detail matters. On 1 April, a citizen of this country who was going to have their tax raised by Labour—bu...
Lewis Macdonald (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am sorry that Mr Swinney was, I understand, too busy to come out of the Parliament today to talk to the local government workers who were lobbying outside ...
John Swinney SNP
I say to those individuals that the Scottish National Party is determined to protect their incomes, not punish them with a tax rise that the Labour Party has...
John Swinney SNP
No afternoon would be complete without Mr Findlay.
Neil Findlay Lab
It is fairly simple. How can the Government protect people’s income if they do not have a job? Interruption.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Let us hear the Deputy First Minister. Interruption. Enough, Mr Findlay!
John Swinney SNP
The Government has given public sector workers the guarantee of no compulsory redundancies. That is what we have delivered for the people of this country. T...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Order.
John Swinney SNP
What have we had? We have had obfuscation from the Labour Party and complaints about the SNP Government doing the right thing to protect people on low income...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
Will the Deputy First Minister take an intervention?
The Presiding Officer NPA
I am sorry, but the Deputy First Minister is winding up.
John Swinney SNP
The investment that we are making in the Scottish welfare fund is £38 million, and there is £343 million for council tax reduction and £35 million to ensure ...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Politics is all about choices, and the SNP today has to make its choice. The budget before us is an austerity budget and so far it is clear that John Swinney...
Mark McDonald (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Jackie Baillie Lab
In a minute. This is about our future. I am ambitious for Scotland: I want a growing economy, and I want our young people to do better than the generation th...
Mark McDonald SNP
Will the member give way?
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jackie Baillie Lab
I will take an intervention from Mark McDonald.
Mark McDonald SNP
Jackie Baillie asked what has changed since May. In the Finance Committee’s report on the budget—Interruption.