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Meeting of the Parliament 02 February 2016

02 Feb 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Education (Scotland) Bill

Like others, I thank everyone who helped the committee in our gathering of evidence. It was more of a challenge than usual, partly because of the eclectic mix of issues that are contained in the bill, and partly because of the chaotic approach that the Government took to consultation, which appeared to be on-going as we considered the bill with regard to General Teaching Council for Scotland registration in independent schools, the statutory requirement for a chief education officer and a range of other issues in relation to which it was clear that prior consultation had not taken place.

The most egregious of those issues, as Mary Scanlon identified, concerned the mandatory minimum number of teaching hours. No evidence was provided for that proposal. It came out of left field at the 11th hour. Earlier, I heard the cabinet secretary tell us about the problems that had been building up, but she was before the committee in November and at that stage she gave no hint that the issue was even at the back of her mind. Whatever the merits of the proposal—we are prepared to have a debate about that—the lack of evidence for it and the problems that Mary Scanlon noted would be caused by such a provision in certain parts of the country suggest that this is no way to run a railway. In a Parliament with no revising chamber, it is important that committees get early sight of Government proposals.

I want to touch on a couple of key aspects of the bill. I warmly welcome the extension of rights in relation to provisions around additional support for learning and I thank the minister for his engagement on those issues. I realise that we have reached an honest disagreement in terms of our approach to the issue. It is regrettable that we have not been able to adopt the Age of Legal Capacity (Scotland) Act 1991 and the presumption of capacity at the age of 12, which is embedded in practice and, over two decades, has been demonstrated to work. Nevertheless, I welcome the provisions in the bill and hope that we can find a way of making them work effectively in practice.

I agree with the Government that we must attach a priority to tackling inequality. Time will tell whether the requirements in the bill lead simply to further reporting of activity rather than more effective activity on the ground, including partnership working. It is regrettable that the attainment fund is targeted using an area basis rather than being focused on the needs of individual pupils. I cannot see how that squares with the commitment to close the attainment gap completely. I think that a pupil premium that is targeted on the needs of individual children, wherever they live, is a far more effective approach.

The obsession with national primary school testing will come to be regretted. As the emeritus professor of education at the University of Strathclyde said, it is difficult to see national standardised testing as anything other than “a retrograde step”, out of sync with the vision of curriculum for excellence.

There are elements of the bill that are worthy. I am still reeling from the rare experience of having a successful amendment, although I think that some of the Scottish Government claims about the impact might be slightly hyperbolic. In the context of the £500 million-worth of cuts to council budgets, the impact that the move will have on education and wider children’s services is yet to be seen.

We will continue to oppose the proposals for national primary school testing, but I confirm that the Liberal Democrats will support the bill at decision time.

17:33  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15221, in the name of Angela Constance, on the Education (Scotland) Bill. 17:04
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Angela Constance) SNP
I am pleased to open the stage 3 debate on the Education (Scotland) Bill. I thank members for their contributions this afternoon, and I thank the Finance Com...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
We come to the chamber today to debate the Education (Scotland) Bill in its final form and, in all likelihood, to pass the bill at decision time tonight. I h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Before I call Mary Scanlon, I will just warn the open-debate speakers that they have three minutes each. Mary Scanlon has up to five minutes. 17:18
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer. First, I have to say that in terms of developing, consulting on and passing the bill, the Scottish Government has fallen far sh...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You must close, please.
Mary Scanlon Con
Finally, I want to say that I am delighted that we now have standardised assessment. I hope that no child will be left behind. I hope that it will be a diagn...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We move to the open debate, with speeches of up to three minutes, please. 17:23
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am proud of the Government’s record on education. The recent report on Scotland’s schools by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development rev...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
We can make no greater investment than ensuring that our children get the best start in life. We all want Scotland to have a world-class education system to ...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Like others, I thank everyone who helped the committee in our gathering of evidence. It was more of a challenge than usual, partly because of the eclectic mi...
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
I, too, welcome the passage of the bill and support what it wants to achieve. As I have said, the Scottish Government is to be commended for putting educatio...
John Pentland (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab) Lab
Some aspects of the legislation are okay as far as they go; with some, it is for the best that they do not go further; and with others, it is a pity that the...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
The Scottish Green Party welcomes the introduction of a duty on ministers to reduce inequalities of outcome, although we would have preferred a focus on incr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We now move to closing speeches. Liz Smith has up to four minutes. 17:40
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
You keep changing the amount of time, Presiding Officer. Mark Griffin made a very interesting point when he opened for the Labour Party. When we look at a ...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Let me start by congratulating the cabinet secretary on getting the Education (Scotland) Bill to this stage and on its imminent approval—I believe—by the Par...
Angela Constance SNP
I have been a minister for five years and, as chance would have it, this is my first piece of legislation. I am quite sure that, when I get home tonight, my ...
The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
You need to close, cabinet secretary.
Angela Constance SNP
There is often a debate about outcomes in education. It is important that we talk about outcomes and how they vary depending on a child’s background or where...
The Presiding Officer NPA
You need to close, cabinet secretary.
Angela Constance SNP
By and large, over the weeks and months we have had a constructive debate about the Education (Scotland) Bill, which is very much a new stage of our journey ...