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Meeting of the Parliament 28 January 2016

28 Jan 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1
McKelvie, Christina SNP Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse Watch on SPTV

A person knows what sexual and domestic abuse are if they have been a victim of either, but refining a specific set of criminal offences that can bring about successful convictions requires hard work, dedication and comprehension of the Scottish legal system. I welcome the on-going consultation on a definition, and I look forward to the results.

The nature of legislating in this area is convoluted, and it must be precision led. We must discuss and debate, as we are doing today, so that all the potential loopholes are tightened up while we ensure at the same time that there is sufficient flexibility to address different situations. We have heard about many different situations in the debate today.

The Scottish Government must be commended and, I believe, the Justice Committee specifically must also be commended for its thoughtful, caring and compassionate approach in taking evidence. The members took time to listen when witnesses gave evidence in committee, and they raised a range of themes that we can continue to discuss at stage 2.

Under the law as it stands in Scotland, there is a crossover between terms such as “grievous bodily harm” and “domestic abuse”. That is central to the need to produce effective legislation that meets the specific needs of victims. As the Scottish Women’s Convention pointed out in its submission,

“The overarching objective of the Bill is to improve how the justice system responds to abusive behaviour, including domestic abuse and sexual harm. It also aims to help improve public safety by ensuring that perpetrators are appropriately held to account for their conduct.”

I will take a moment to remind members of some of the statistics on domestic abuse in Scotland. In 2014-15 there were 59,882 incidents of domestic abuse recorded by the police, which represented an increase of 2.5 per cent. I hope that the increase has more to do with women feeling more confident about reporting such incidents, but we should not view it only in that context. Of the incidents that were recorded last year, 54 per cent resulted in at least one crime or offence being committed. The victims were mainly women—79 per cent—and the domestic abuse was most likely to take place at the weekends and to happen to people aged 26 to 30.

The big problem remains, however: women are not getting justice in the current system. The bill seeks to redress that situation. Many members will be aware of the successful drive to have Clare’s law rolled out in Scotland, which I have greatly supported, and of the work that I have done in increasing awareness of revenge porn—I look forward to that becoming a specific criminal offence. I pay tribute at this point to all the organisations that have informed and helped me on those issues and I look forward to seeing their success result in decent legislation.

There have been good developments that are improving access to justice, but the civil protections that are offered are still not enough of an incentive for more women to seek the assistance of the law. There are too many aspects that discourage women from reporting incidents to the police, and we need to change that. That is why the bill will include the introduction of a statutory aggravator. As the Scottish Women’s Convention said:

“Such a measure in relation to domestic abuse sends the message that those who perpetrate such crimes will be adequately punished.”

Marking out revenge porn is vital for the victims and for the right to due process, and getting the right convictions will send out the clear message that it is unacceptable and that there will be a zero-tolerance approach to those who do it. Social media give us so many ways in which to express ourselves and our opinions, however bizarre or unpopular they are in some cases, but they give no one the right to post pictures of ex-partners without either their knowledge or their consent. Social media do not provide a licence to abuse.

Personal use of technology in its many forms is very difficult to police. It is so easy to press a button and post a picture, but the sad and tragic tales of the people who have been exposed to revenge porn tell us how utterly devastating the effect can be.

I support the bill in its entirety and I look forward to stage 2. I hope that through the bill process we will create legislation that will mean that perpetrators will pay a hefty price.

16:16  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15441, in the name of Michael Matheson, on the Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill. I invit...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
I thank the Justice Committee, the clerks to the committee and the people who gave evidence during stage 1 scrutiny of the Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm ...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the cabinet secretary confirm whether the research to which he refers includes actual jurors?
Michael Matheson SNP
The member may have misheard the point that I made. It was about research into how people react during a sexual offence or after such an offence has been com...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
The committee would very much welcome that change, as it was one of the committee’s recommendations. I think that there would have been issues with the Europ...
Michael Matheson SNP
The intention was always that the individual would have the right to make representations. To put the matter beyond any doubt, we are considering whether the...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Cabinet secretary, will you draw to a close?
Michael Matheson SNP
I welcome the committee’s support in its stage 1 report for the general principles of the bill. I move, That the Parliament agrees to the general principle...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Many thanks. I reiterate to members that there is no spare time in the debate. I call on Christine Grahame to speak on behalf of the Justice Committee. You ...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak on behalf of the Justice Committee, which has scrutinised the Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill. I thank our witnesses ...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
I thank the clerks, as well as the witnesses who gave written and oral evidence at stage 1. Two parts of the bill were more contentious than the rest: judi...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
The Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill is an important piece of proposed legislation, which seeks to address hugely vexing, emotive and, in so...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
We now move to the open debate. I ask for four-minute speeches, as we are tight for time. 16:04
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I rise to speak to one of the most significant sections of the bill: that relating to statutory jury directions in relation to sexual offences. I declare an...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Please draw to a close, Mr Paterson.
Gil Paterson SNP
I have been asked to wind up, so I will just say that we need to educate jurors. Juries must have an open mind and judges giving jury directions will help to...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the bill. I will take each of its six main proposals in turn. I support the introduction of a domestic abuse aggravator, which will allow the rele...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
The member must draw to a close, please.
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
Time is running out. There is a great deal in the bill about the civil orders, and a little bit less about sexual offences committed elsewhere in the UK, but...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
A person knows what sexual and domestic abuse are if they have been a victim of either, but refining a specific set of criminal offences that can bring about...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak after Christina McKelvie, as I know that she has campaigned long and hard on the issue, as I have. I thank the Government for introduc...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You should draw to a close, please.
Alison McInnes LD
There are worryingly prevalent views, and if that is the picture across Scotland, it will be in jurors’ minds in the courtroom as they hear evidence and will...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I add my thanks to the Justice Committee team—the clerks and members of the committee—for putting together the stage 1 report, and I thank the Scottish Gover...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You must close, please.
Christian Allard SNP
I remind members that organisations such as Zero Tolerance, Rape Crisis Scotland, the Women’s Support Project, Scottish Women’s Aid, White Ribbon Scotland, E...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill is vital legislation that has been introduced to improve how the justice system responds to abusive beh...
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
I refer members to my entry in the register of interests, which says that I am a member of the Faculty of Advocates. The bill contains six distinct elements...
Hanzala Malik (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
It is with interest that I speak about the Abusive Behaviour and Sexual Harm (Scotland) Bill, which aims to bring Scottish law up to date with changes in soc...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
I, too, thank the witnesses for their thought-provoking written and oral evidence. I hope that they are reassured by the stage 1 report that their comments w...