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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 28 January 2016

28 Jan 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Succession (Scotland) Bill

I thank members for a good—if controversial—debate. From the outset, the passage of the Succession (Scotland) Bill has been characterised by consensus and collaboration. That is testament to the DPLR Committee and its convivial but suitably robust approach to the responsibilities that fall within its remit.

I pay tribute to the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs and his officials, who listened to the committee’s recommendations at stage 1 and implemented them by way of amendments at stage 2, which received unanimous support from members. The minister also proactively liaised with the committee on the stage 3 amendments on bonds of caution, which were unexpected, albeit that the changes were clearly necessary in the light of recent developments in the insurance market.

As I said in my opening speech, the bill is predominantly technical. However, as the Scottish Law Commission emphasised last year, such a description should not be thought to diminish the importance or effect of the bill’s provisions. For people who find themselves in the situations to which the provisions apply, the bill is likely to be highly important. Margaret McDougall said that, but the point is compelling and worthy of repetition. The bill might be relatively limited in scope, with a focus on technical matters rather than substantive policy change, but it will have a significant impact on important areas of Scots law in implementing changes that relate to wills, survivorship and forfeiture, as well as protections for executors, trustees and buyers of property.

Let us not forget that the reforms have been many years in the making. I am pleased that the changes that were made to the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee’s remit in 2013 to enable it to consider certain bills emanating from Scottish Law Commission reports, as mentioned by John Mason, have helped to expedite the placing of parts of the commission’s 2009 report on a statutory footing. Perhaps, in the future, that change to the committee’s remit will mean that some of the less contentious reforms that the Scottish Law Commission has proposed will be implemented expeditiously and timeously.

In that vein, I commend the Scottish Government’s approach of undertaking two separate projects on succession law. Although both projects are based on the Scottish Law Commission’s 1990 and 2009 reports, such a legislative approach recommends itself well to areas of the law where there are technical and potentially controversial proposals. However, as we move forward, I urge the Scottish Government to consider how it intends to consolidate the provisions in the bill and any future legislation that might come before the Parliament.

At stage 1, I referred to the comments of Professor Joseph Thomson, the lead commissioner on the succession project, who said at the publication of the 2009 report:

“The aim is to simplify the law radically by providing rules which are easily understood and which at the same time reflect the nature of family structures in contemporary Scotland.”

At stage 3, the test of the bill remains whether it achieves the radical simplification that was envisaged by the Scottish Law Commission. The Scottish Conservatives are satisfied that that is the case, and I reiterate my party’s support for the bill, which will be reflected at decision time.

I will end on a cautionary note by saying, as others have done, that the last-minute changes to the existing rules on bonds of caution must be subject to post-legislative scrutiny. Although I am reassured that the stage 3 amendments give ministers a range of powers to future proof the arrangements against any further changes in the caution market, I seek further assurances from the minister that this is very much a live issue and that the Scottish Government will endeavour to monitor the developing situation and keep the Parliament suitably updated.

15:22  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15440, in the name of Paul Wheelhouse, on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. Before I invite the minister t...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of the standing orders, I advise the Parliament that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Succession (Scotla...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you, cabinet secretary. That means that we now begin the debate. 14:47
The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
It gives me great pleasure to open this stage 3 debate on the Succession (Scotland) Bill and to invite members to agree to pass the bill this evening. At th...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
During stage 2 consideration of amendments, the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs said that he was glad to get away from the Justice Committee ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call John Scott—four minutes, please. 15:01
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
I welcome today’s stage 3 proceedings on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. As the bill completes its parliamentary passage this afternoon, I would once again l...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
That was perfectly timed. 15:06
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I am glad that extending the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee’s remit has created additional parliamentary capacity for dealing with bills that come...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You really must close, please.
Stewart Stevenson SNP
We had a huge and interesting discussion about common calamities and sequencing of death. The important thing is that we worked out a way in which we can be ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I must ask members to keep tightly to their four minutes. 15:10
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Stewart Stevenson for his speech, which as usual was educational. As the minister said, the Succession (Scotland) Bill is mainly technical. As we ha...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We will have a brief contribution from John Mason. 15:14
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Because the bill was a Scottish Law Commission bill, and because it was being dealt with by the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, we know that it di...
John Scott Con
I thank members for a good—if controversial—debate. From the outset, the passage of the Succession (Scotland) Bill has been characterised by consensus and co...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is my pleasure to speak on behalf of Scottish Labour in support of the Government’s approach to the Succession (Scotland) Bill and the amendments that hav...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call the minister, Paul Wheelhouse, to wind up the debate. Minister, if you could do so in less than seven minutes, I would be most grateful.
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Oh, that would be wonderful. 15:27
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
That request seems to have been met with great acclaim among the members sitting behind me, Presiding Officer. I thank all members who have spoken in the de...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
I simply note that the evidence that we took led to the manuscript amendments that the Presiding Officer accepted today. That shows the validity of the proce...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Minister, please note that the debate is now eating into the time of the next debate, so be as brief as possible.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Absolutely. I certainly agree with the sentiment that Stewart Stevenson expresses. I do not envisage such a situation occurring again, even on an irregular ...