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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 28 January 2016

28 Jan 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Succession (Scotland) Bill

I thank Stewart Stevenson for his speech, which as usual was educational.

As the minister said, the Succession (Scotland) Bill is mainly technical. As we have heard, it is part of the wider-ranging reforms that are to be made during the next parliamentary session. In effect, the bill is an exercise in tidying parts of the law in advance of further consultation and policy reform. However, in its evidence to the committee at stage 1, the Scottish Law Commission said that the bill’s description as technical

“should not in any way be seen as diminishing the importance or effect of the Bill’s provisions. Indeed for those who find themselves in situations to which the Bill’s provisions apply, they are likely to be highly important.”

The changes that are being made are to be welcomed, as they both modernise the laws of succession and bring us more in line with England. I have often found it odd that, even after the breakdown of a relationship, the spouse—if they are mentioned in the will—is entitled to assets. The bill alters that so that, in the event of a divorce, dissolution or annulment, the favourable status of a former spouse is revoked, unless otherwise stated by the testator. The same will now be true if the former spouse was appointed the guardian of the child. That shift means that Scotland and England now have broadly similar positions on the issue, which is to be welcomed.

The changes to survivorship in the event of common calamities are sensible. Currently, the rules state that in the event of spouses dying close to each other in time, the younger spouse is presumed to have survived the elder. Section 9 of the bill changes that so that, when two people die in such circumstances, neither is to be treated as having survived the other. In terms of fatal car crashes and other such events, those changes make sense.

I seek clarity on section 6, which makes provision to deal with the situation when a deceased person’s first choice of beneficiary in a will has died before them and the will makes no provision for what should happen in that situation. The rule had been unclear about nieces and nephews, but that was tidied up and the rule was narrowed to include the testator’s direct descendants only. However, I am unclear about what that means when there are no direct descendants or when the direct descendants have passed away before the will has been actioned. Will assets be passed to nieces and nephews in the event of there being no direct descendants, unless otherwise stated in the will?

I am happy to support the bill. The changes that it makes are sensible and provide a much-needed update to succession law. The changes attempt to deal with some of the more confusing elements of that law. On the whole, the bill is a technical but important piece of legislation, and I look forward to seeing what role it will play in the wider-ranging policy reform that is forthcoming.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15440, in the name of Paul Wheelhouse, on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. Before I invite the minister t...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of the standing orders, I advise the Parliament that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Succession (Scotla...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you, cabinet secretary. That means that we now begin the debate. 14:47
The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
It gives me great pleasure to open this stage 3 debate on the Succession (Scotland) Bill and to invite members to agree to pass the bill this evening. At th...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
During stage 2 consideration of amendments, the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs said that he was glad to get away from the Justice Committee ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call John Scott—four minutes, please. 15:01
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
I welcome today’s stage 3 proceedings on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. As the bill completes its parliamentary passage this afternoon, I would once again l...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
That was perfectly timed. 15:06
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I am glad that extending the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee’s remit has created additional parliamentary capacity for dealing with bills that come...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You really must close, please.
Stewart Stevenson SNP
We had a huge and interesting discussion about common calamities and sequencing of death. The important thing is that we worked out a way in which we can be ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I must ask members to keep tightly to their four minutes. 15:10
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Stewart Stevenson for his speech, which as usual was educational. As the minister said, the Succession (Scotland) Bill is mainly technical. As we ha...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We will have a brief contribution from John Mason. 15:14
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Because the bill was a Scottish Law Commission bill, and because it was being dealt with by the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, we know that it di...
John Scott Con
I thank members for a good—if controversial—debate. From the outset, the passage of the Succession (Scotland) Bill has been characterised by consensus and co...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is my pleasure to speak on behalf of Scottish Labour in support of the Government’s approach to the Succession (Scotland) Bill and the amendments that hav...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call the minister, Paul Wheelhouse, to wind up the debate. Minister, if you could do so in less than seven minutes, I would be most grateful.
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Oh, that would be wonderful. 15:27
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
That request seems to have been met with great acclaim among the members sitting behind me, Presiding Officer. I thank all members who have spoken in the de...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
I simply note that the evidence that we took led to the manuscript amendments that the Presiding Officer accepted today. That shows the validity of the proce...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Minister, please note that the debate is now eating into the time of the next debate, so be as brief as possible.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Absolutely. I certainly agree with the sentiment that Stewart Stevenson expresses. I do not envisage such a situation occurring again, even on an irregular ...