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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 28 January 2016

28 Jan 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Succession (Scotland) Bill

I welcome today’s stage 3 proceedings on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. As the bill completes its parliamentary passage this afternoon, I would once again like to thank the witnesses and stakeholders who have helped to inform the legislative process thus far, as well as the Scottish Law Commission for the considerable work that it has undertaken to see these reforms through to completion. I would also like to thank our DPLR Committee clerks and our legal advisers, who have worked above and beyond the call of duty.

I pay particular tribute to the witnesses who gave evidence for the second time to the DPLR Committee on the Scottish Government’s amendments on bonds of caution at very short notice this week. As members will be aware, that was an unusual step, and it broke new ground for the committee, if not for the Parliament.

Previously, the Scottish Government had decided to exclude bonds of caution from the scope of the bill, despite their abolition being one of the Scottish Law Commission's recommendations in its 2009 report, on which many of the bill’s provisions are based. The Scottish Government took that decision primarily because there was a lack of consensus surrounding the nature of the safeguards that would be required in the event of abolition. The prospect of having a second piece of legislation on succession law meant that there would be a suitable vehicle to implement any changes in the area of bonds of caution at a later date, allowing more time for inquiry and consultation on satisfactory safeguards. However, the Scottish Government’s hand was forced by recent developments, when Zurich Insurance, one of the two insurance providers of bonds of caution, announced that it will withdraw from the market from 1 February 2016, leaving Royal Sun Alliance as the sole provider, as the minister indicated.

The key issue is that Royal Sun Alliance makes the provision of a bond of caution conditional on a solicitor being appointed to administer the estate, whereas Zurich did not. That condition has cost implications for small estates with a gross value of less than £36,000, which currently benefit from the simplified small estate procedure. As we know, the Scottish Government introduced amendments at stage 3 to mitigate the effects of the recent changes in the market.

I was keen to explore the implications of those changes with witnesses earlier this week at committee. Evidence from all our witnesses indicated that the Scottish Government’s course of action in response to the withdrawal of Zurich, although a quick fix, is both proportionate and fair. Based on the evidence that we heard, it seems that that course of action is the correct one, particularly given the glacial pace at which legislation on succession law has been introduced and the uncertainties generated in the immediate future by the forthcoming election.

I echo the view of the convener of the DPLR Committee, Nigel Don, who said that the measures are

“not retrospective but transitional, because we are doing it now for the future, but only until we get to the next gate.”—[Official Report, Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, 26 January 2016; c 44.]

In such circumstances, it is incumbent on the successor DPLR Committee and the Parliament to undertake robust scrutiny of what can reasonably be described as stop-gap measures over the coming months and years as a clearer picture of the situation on the ground emerges. On that basis, we in the Scottish Conservative Party were content to support the amendments.

From the outset, the DPLR Committee’s scrutiny of the bill was collaborative and consensus driven. From a policy perspective, the majority of the bill’s provisions are non-contentious, and the legal profession has been strongly supportive of reform, particularly given that the Scottish Law Commission’s first report on succession law, on which the 2009 report was based, was published in 1990—almost three decades ago. I am therefore pleased that many of the SLC’s recommendations, which are broadly technical in nature, are being placed on a statutory footing, and I confirm that the Scottish Conservatives will support the bill at decision time.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15440, in the name of Paul Wheelhouse, on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. Before I invite the minister t...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of the standing orders, I advise the Parliament that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Succession (Scotla...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you, cabinet secretary. That means that we now begin the debate. 14:47
The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
It gives me great pleasure to open this stage 3 debate on the Succession (Scotland) Bill and to invite members to agree to pass the bill this evening. At th...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
During stage 2 consideration of amendments, the Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs said that he was glad to get away from the Justice Committee ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call John Scott—four minutes, please. 15:01
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
I welcome today’s stage 3 proceedings on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. As the bill completes its parliamentary passage this afternoon, I would once again l...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
That was perfectly timed. 15:06
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I am glad that extending the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee’s remit has created additional parliamentary capacity for dealing with bills that come...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You really must close, please.
Stewart Stevenson SNP
We had a huge and interesting discussion about common calamities and sequencing of death. The important thing is that we worked out a way in which we can be ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I must ask members to keep tightly to their four minutes. 15:10
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Stewart Stevenson for his speech, which as usual was educational. As the minister said, the Succession (Scotland) Bill is mainly technical. As we ha...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We will have a brief contribution from John Mason. 15:14
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Because the bill was a Scottish Law Commission bill, and because it was being dealt with by the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, we know that it di...
John Scott Con
I thank members for a good—if controversial—debate. From the outset, the passage of the Succession (Scotland) Bill has been characterised by consensus and co...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is my pleasure to speak on behalf of Scottish Labour in support of the Government’s approach to the Succession (Scotland) Bill and the amendments that hav...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call the minister, Paul Wheelhouse, to wind up the debate. Minister, if you could do so in less than seven minutes, I would be most grateful.
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Oh, that would be wonderful. 15:27
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
That request seems to have been met with great acclaim among the members sitting behind me, Presiding Officer. I thank all members who have spoken in the de...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
I simply note that the evidence that we took led to the manuscript amendments that the Presiding Officer accepted today. That shows the validity of the proce...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Minister, please note that the debate is now eating into the time of the next debate, so be as brief as possible.
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
Absolutely. I certainly agree with the sentiment that Stewart Stevenson expresses. I do not envisage such a situation occurring again, even on an irregular ...