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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 21 January 2016

21 Jan 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Youth Awards and Youth Work

It has always been said that I could speak in the dark, and it is literally true that I am doing so this afternoon. Drew Smith is quite right that it is difficult to see the Presiding Officer—that gave Linda Fabiani great latitude and let her make a four-minute speech last five and half minutes, which is commendable.

I acknowledge what Linda Fabiani said in particular about volunteering. One of the most genuinely enjoyable aspects of this job is presenting awards and being part of the celebrations that take place in every area of Scotland. Over the years, it has been my pleasure to do a lot of that in Shetland and to recognise young people, no matter their background and no matter what they have done, for the role that they have played. That aspect has been reflected in speeches across the chamber this afternoon.

I want to reflect in a more positive way on Iain Gray’s amendment. I absolutely take the minister’s and Mary Scanlon’s points about the detail and I am sure that they are right about that. However, it seems to me that Iain Gray’s amendment has something quite strong and important about it—indeed, I thought that the remarks by the minister and Mary Scanlon reflected that—which is that the awards that we are talking about and the others that are mentioned in members’ considerable lists are not always recognised in the school points systems that reflect on individual pupils’ futures. I recognise that that might be more of a formal system and that it might need some work, which no doubt Iain Gray will describe. However, were the awards to be more recognised, the type of learning experience that we are seeking to achieve through our education system—and, in particular, that we would like employers to recognise—might be worthy of the approach that is proposed in Iain Gray’s amendment, although I take the minister’s point about the detail.

As the minister and others have made clear during the debate, and as Jim Sweeney’s excellent briefing for this debate makes clear, some young people find it hard to achieve formal education qualifications. That point was behind the Wood commission’s report and it is one that we are all strongly supportive of on a cross-party basis. It therefore seems to me that the learning partnerships in the senior phases of our high schools between youth work, schools and teachers is part of the approach that we want. The argument about parity of esteem seems to me to be particularly important, and we should possibly see that as the change that would provide the positive benefits of the blended learning that we are looking to achieve.

The other point relating to the minister’s wider comments that I want to reflect on is what I suppose some might describe as the current barriers to youth workers playing a greater role in schools. I think that it would be very positive indeed if they played that role. Some work has been done already that shows how effective that can be. After all, youth workers are trained and professionally qualified in the area. There is much to be gained for our education system, not least because of the introduction and practical implementation of curriculum for excellence, if the Government would take that forward in the best possible way. That might need further work and consideration and the kind of research that the Education Scotland report touches on, but it seems to me that putting skilled youth workers in schools to work with teachers to benefit pupils is very much what we are after.

I want to recognise the important work that is done in my constituency by Shetland Islands Council youth services in relation to positive destinations for young people from all backgrounds. Cara Hilton rightly made a point about the wider pressure on youth services budgets in every local authority area in Scotland. I am sure that the minister is working hard to win the internal argument about the necessary resources for that.

I also want to mention the Dame Kelly Holmes Trust, which does great work with young athletes.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15380, in the name of Aileen Campbell, on celebrating the success of Scotland’s young people and youth wo...
The Minister for Children and Young People (Aileen Campbell) SNP
This debate is, as the motion suggests, an opportunity for us to highlight the contribution that youth work and, specifically, youth awards make to our socie...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I apologise to you for the distractions during your speech, minister. 16:13
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open this short debate for Scottish Labour. I would like to begin by joining the minister in welcoming the success of Scotland’s young people...
Aileen Campbell SNP
Will the member take an intervention? Jean Urquhart (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) rose—
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
From whom are you taking the intervention?
Cara Hilton Lab
I will take the intervention from the minister.
Aileen Campbell SNP
I record our willingness to work with Cara Hilton and others on that. We want to capture all the achievements that young people take from the youth awards. T...
Cara Hilton Lab
I very much welcome the minister’s comments. We are not talking about a stand-alone certificate, as the amendment possibly implies. I hope that the minister ...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I welcome the debate. Scottish Conservatives fully support youth awards in Scotland, which help young people to be successful, confident, effective and respo...
Linda Fabiani (East Kilbride) (SNP) SNP
This is a really interesting subject. Every one of us who has the privilege of representing people in Scotland could reel off loads of examples in which youn...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Right, on you go then. We will see whether the lights resume. We expect them to kick back in. Keep going, please.
Linda Fabiani SNP
I do not consider it a criticism that aspects for further development are mentioned in the report. It is an opportunity that we can use. We must try very har...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You should draw to a close, please.
Linda Fabiani SNP
I also want more of a focus on building stuff around the youth award work that is there for those who, for whatever reason, choose not to participate. Again,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Can you close, please?
Linda Fabiani SNP
Certainly. My last point is that very good work is being done. The young people and organisations involved are fabulous, and the professionalism of the staff...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Well done. That was a valiant effort in extraordinary circumstances. Mr Smith, if you can see, you may have four minutes or thereby. 16:32
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I read Education Scotland’s report with interest, and I wondered whether I should declare an interest as a recipient of the Rotary International youth leader...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Well done—an excellent speech in very difficult conditions. 16:36
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
It has always been said that I could speak in the dark, and it is literally true that I am doing so this afternoon. Drew Smith is quite right that it is diff...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You are in your final 10 seconds.
Tavish Scott LD
That is 10 seconds going on a minute and a half, I guess, based on what happened earlier. The Dame Kelly Holmes Trust transforms the lives of disadvantaged ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Graeme Dey has four minutes or thereby. 16:41
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
Although I absolutely acknowledge the success of the awards network and formal youth work in general, I will focus my speech—given the clock, it will be curt...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Thank you for your brevity—I appreciate it. 16:43
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
This has been quite a debate and it has at times been full of all the atmosphere and excitement of a Barry Manilow concert, or at least what I imagine that t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I trust that you are not challenging the chair, Mr Carlaw.
Jackson Carlaw Con
I compliment the opening speakers on their briskly delivered speeches. In the past few years, a number of strategies have been launched in Scotland concerni...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Members will know how keen I always am to find opportunities to celebrate the success of Scottish Government initiatives. On many occasions I struggle to fin...