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Meeting of the Parliament 19 January 2016

19 Jan 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Public Petitions Process Review

I agree with Hanzala Malik on that point. Petitioners who have brought petitions forward to the committee that have not been successful should have another route through the Parliament.

I thank my fellow committee members, both past and present. Thanks must also be given to the committee’s support staff for their hard work and advice, which have been invaluable to members in the many varied tasks that they undertake.

David Stewart, Jackson Carlaw and John Wilson all mentioned the success of the mesh petition. The evidence session was one of the most emotional that I have sat through, not only for the petitioners but for those of us who were there on the day.

Hanzala Malik spoke about engagement with ethnic minorities—or rather, the lack of such engagement by the Parliament and the Public Petitions Committee. We need to look at that to see whether we can increase engagement with groups out there that we cannot reach.

I congratulate John Wilson on being the longest-serving member of the committee.

Stewart Stevenson came up with the really novel idea that we could go out and engage with the general public by advertising on TV to see whether we could reach more of them. That is perhaps an idea that the Public Petitions Committee could take on.

Angus MacDonald and Joe FitzPatrick mentioned the Tinkers’ Heart, which I will come to in a moment. Michael McMahon talked about the quality of the engagement during the committee’s visit to Inveraray. Anyone who was there will know that it was one of those meetings at which the public engaged with the committee. It is that to which I will turn now.

The meeting of the Public Petitions Committee that took place in Inveraray in September 2015 was an excellent example of how engagement between local communities and the Scottish Parliament can be beneficial. Such engagement allows people to feel not only that they are an integral part of the petitions process, but that their contributions will be taken into account in determining a final outcome.

It was heartening to see that the 14th Public Petitions Committee meeting in 2015, which was held on a glorious day in Inveraray, was well attended by members of the public. The reaction of Jess Smith, following her submission on and successful conclusion to the Tinkers’ Heart petition, was indicative of just how important it is to members of the public to feel that they are a part of the whole process.

During the question-and-answer session, Alan Reid, the former MP for Argyll and Bute, not only thanked the committee for coming to Inveraray, but commented on the Westminster parliamentary committee system and how it could learn from the Scottish Parliament.

The reaction of the public involved to that meeting serves to illustrate how advantageous such a process is in providing a positive experience for many communities and making them feel that their voice is being heard and that their opinions are valued. It also showed the openness and willingness of the Scottish Parliament to engage with the public in their own backyard on issues that are important to them and will impact on their lives in some way.

The debate has highlighted the importance of the petitions process in raising issues of concern and acting as a gateway to wider engagement with the Parliament. It seems appropriate to close the debate not with my words but with the words of a petitioner, who wrote:

“I have always been very engaged with Parliament, but I definitely felt more enthused by Parliament. I feel it’s a very good organisation. I didn’t doubt it in the first place, but I just feel it’s a really good organisation we’ve got … I haven’t written to my MSPs on any issues for a while, but I definitely feel more confident about writing to parliamentarians.”

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15343, in the name of Michael McMahon, on a review of the public petitions process. I call Michael McMaho...
Michael McMahon (Uddingston and Bellshill) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open this debate on the review of the petitions process. This is the fourth debate that we have had on the Parliament’s petitions process sin...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (Joe FitzPatrick) SNP
It is right and proper that the Parliament regularly reviews its procedures. That allows the Parliament to examine what has worked well and what it can do be...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to speak today as one of the Public Petitions Committee’s ex-conveners. I spent a very happy four years there, and I see familiar faces in the c...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I am very happy to contribute to the debate, and I do so as an unreserved fan of the Scottish Parliament’s petitions process. Towards the end of my first se...
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP
I cannot help reflecting that all that I have heard so far suggests that that has been the case in this session. I confirm that exactly the same prevailed in...
Jackson Carlaw Con
I am happy to agree on the golden age of Nigel Don on petitions, equally as much as I am on the golden age of petitions with David Stewart. I accept that tha...
Kenny MacAskill (Edinburgh Eastern) (SNP) SNP
I heartily endorse the comments that were made initially by the current committee convener, which have been endorsed by every member across the chamber who h...
Hanzala Malik (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
It is a pleasure to speak on the review of the public petitions process in the Scottish Parliament. The public petitions system and the Public Petitions Comm...
Angus MacDonald (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to contribute to the debate, especially as there has been some negative coverage of the Public Petitions Committee in the media in recent months...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
I, too, take great pleasure in speaking in the debate. I think that I am currently the longest-serving member of the Public Petitions Committee, with almost ...
Michael McMahon Lab
I want to clarify what Mr Wilson just said. It did not require an FOI request to get that information. There was a simple request by someone who had an inter...
John Wilson Ind
Mr McMahon was not a member of the committee at the time when the issue was raised. The committee discussed the matter at the time and surprise was expressed...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate the minister on his brevity, which allows much more time for the backbenchers to express their views on a committee that is, in essence, a cre...
Jackson Carlaw Con
I would like to develop the point that I made in my earlier contribution about the way in which we might more effectively advertise the parliamentary petitio...
David Stewart Lab
This has been an excellent debate with lots of consensus. I am grateful for Jackson Carlaw’s update on Lord Gill. I had missed the fact that he came before t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
You still have a minute and a half, if you want.
David Stewart Lab
This has been an interesting debate. I endorse the conclusions of the independent review of the petitions process. The committee is excellent and should keep...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Given that I sat on the first Public Petitions Committee, it is important for me to remember the spirit of John McAllion, who was its convener. His pioneerin...
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to close the debate on behalf of the committee. The importance of the petitions process is accepted across the chamber. It is a core part of mee...
Hanzala Malik Lab
I want to run something past Mr Torrance, because he has more experience than I have. What about the petitioners who have been unsuccessful? Is there room fo...
David Torrance SNP
I agree with Hanzala Malik on that point. Petitioners who have brought petitions forward to the committee that have not been successful should have another r...