Committee
Finance Committee 06 January 2016
06 Jan 2016 · S4 · Finance Committee
Item of business
Draft Budget 2016-17
Professor Leith
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Okay. Last year, the Scottish Government approached the issue of forecasting buoyancy by starting from the long-run average, then it looked at a range of economic indicators to see whether, for example, GDP growth was higher, unemployment was going down or business confidence was going up. If the Scottish Government believed that the economy was strengthening, it would shift the buoyancy forecast above its average; if it believed that the economy was not strengthening, it would shift the average down. The problem that we had with that was that there was no formal assessment. I suppose that GDP growth has increased by 0.5 per cent but how does that 0.5 per cent translate into the deviation of buoyancy from its long-run average? Should buoyancy go up by 0.5 per cent as well? Should it go up by 1 per cent or less than that? There was no formal link between the two. Our position was that until that formal link was demonstrated, the adjustment was essentially ad hoc. There was a limited span of data for buoyancy subsequently, so it was difficult to do any modelling work on buoyancy at all. We recommended that the Government try to obtain a longer historical series for buoyancy. It managed to obtain such a series and create a second proxy series from NDRI receipts, so we now have two historical data series for buoyancy. If you look at those two series, you will see that there seems to be a cyclical pattern. Every time there is a revaluation cycle, there is a peak in buoyancy that slowly declines; then there is another revaluation year, buoyancy jumps back up again and then slowly declines. Given the way in which the buoyancy numbers are constructed, revaluation cycles should have no impact on buoyancy, so why that was the pattern is a bit of a puzzle. Throughout the year, we have pushed the Scottish Government on the matter and explored with the Scottish Assessors Association why the pattern exists, given that, a priori, we are not quite sure why it should exist. They have come up with the story about the relationship between the revaluation cycle and what are called rolling revaluations. The idea is that the rateable value of a property can be appealed at any point in time if the nature of the property changes, but revaluations can be appealed only in the year in which they occur. What tends to happen is that the rolling revaluations are resolved only when the revaluation appeals are resolved. That gives a mechanism for explaining the cyclical pattern. We have encouraged the Scottish Government to quantify whether it can reasonably explain the pattern, and we now believe that it can. We are looking for further work on that to strengthen our description of the cyclical pattern because only by controlling that can we extract the residual information from the series to assess to what extent buoyancy is affected by other economic variables such as GDP growth, unemployment and all the rest. We are half way through a process of enhancing the description of the data to allow a more formal modelling of buoyancy in the future.
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The Convener
SNP
Let us get the show back on the road. We will now take evidence on the draft budget 2016-17 from the Scottish Fiscal Commission. We are joined by Lady Susan ...
Lady Susan Rice CBE (Scottish Fiscal Commission)
Thank you very much for having us back so soon after our last visit to the committee. On behalf of the commission, I offer you all good wishes for the new ye...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you very much, Lady Rice. Professor Leith, is there anything that you wish to add at this point?
Professor Campbell Leith (Scottish Fiscal Commission)
No, thank you.
The Convener
SNP
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Lady Rice
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Professor Leith
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The Convener
SNP
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Professor Leith
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The Convener
SNP
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Professor Leith
Okay. Last year, the Scottish Government approached the issue of forecasting buoyancy by starting from the long-run average, then it looked at a range of eco...
The Convener
SNP
Thank you for that comprehensive answer. I move on to the additional land and buildings transaction tax, which is new for 2016-17. Paragraph 7.1 of your rep...
Professor Leith
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The Convener
SNP
That is fine. In the section of your report entitled “Improving the Forecasting Process”, you say in paragraph 8.2: “data limitations may place a constrain...
Professor Leith
A number of improvements have been made in data availability through the years. For the buoyancy figures, we now have a longer historical time series, albeit...
The Convener
SNP
You would also like more emphasis on behavioural responses.
Professor Leith
Yes.
Lady Rice
I will add a footnote to what Campbell Leith said. There might be instances in which it is not possible to get data. For example, at the high end of property...
The Convener
SNP
I will now open out the session. The first colleague to ask questions will be John Mason.
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
SNP
Thank you for your report, which makes good reading. I picked out a few things on my way through it. Lady Rice mentioned having a protocol. That is referred ...
Lady Rice
I am searching for the right word, which might not be a technical word. The purpose of the protocol is to respond to some conversations that we have had with...
John Mason
SNP
That is helpful. There will probably be an agreement between the commission and the Government, but the protocol will give the commission’s angle on how it v...
Lady Rice
The protocol will set out how we intend to do our work.
Professor Leith
The way in which we develop the protocol will be contingent on the remit that we ultimately get from the Scottish Fiscal Commission Bill and the response to ...
John Mason
SNP
I will come back to that later, but first I will turn to other specifics. Paragraph 3.5 on page 8 of the SFC’s report highlights concerns “that the current ...
Professor Leith
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John Mason
SNP
If a new trend is starting, surely it is impossible to predict.
Professor Leith
There are techniques for identifying time variation in trends, so people can see that a historical trend no longer applies to the current data releases.
John Mason
SNP
So it is a question of picking up a new trend once it has started.
Professor Leith
It depends. In simple statistical models, techniques can be used that allow people to pick up new trends as they develop. The idea is that turning points are...