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Meeting of the Parliament 06 January 2016

06 Jan 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Age and Social Isolation
Biagi, Marco SNP Edinburgh Central Watch on SPTV

I thank Margaret McCulloch and all the members of the Equal Opportunities Committee for their inquiry into age and social isolation. This is a great opportunity to respond to it. It was a very positive exercise and is a very welcome contribution that is also timely, not least because of the festive season, as Ms McCulloch’s highlighted in her opening remarks.

The report has raised important issues about how widespread social isolation has become across all levels and ages in society, including how it can affect and damage a person’s sense of belonging, their empowerment and their contribution to society. Alienation is a word that is often used in the context of discussions about Jimmy Reid’s contribution and Harry Burns’s sense about work, but it also applies to society, with the same risks.

To its credit, the committee has been praised for its inquiry, with what Age Scotland has called the first parliamentary inquiry to be carried out specifically on isolation and loneliness anywhere in the world. I would join in that praise.

Alongside the constructive recommendations and evidence in the Equal Opportunities Committee’s report, there is a strong moral case for tackling the issue. We are social creatures. A lack of social contact hits people across the board with poorer health and a shorter lifespan, and it makes it harder to follow through on good lifestyle choices that could have beneficial impacts.

There are not any quick fixes—let us agree on that. Everyone in Scotland has to be committed to addressing social isolation and to taking tangible, measurable actions against it.

To begin, we must consider the differing needs of age groups in society. For example, there are the implications for and complex needs of our ageing population, which are only projected to continue. Twenty per cent of children born today—I repeat, 20 per cent—will live to be 100 years old, the statisticians tell us. Our young population has a whole range of ways of communicating and interacting socially that previous generations did not. Among the young there is a strong emphasis on technology and virtual contact, but it can have negative and positive impacts on social isolation. Changing working patterns, family patterns and social patterns also cause our forms of interaction to change, as indeed they always have over time. What we must do is adapt.

The good news is that we are together on the need to bring about greater community. That is a very helpful place to start. From the Parliament and its members, the passionate people who contributed evidence to the committee’s report, those in public services, communities and the ordinary and, frankly, extraordinary people who, with good will, are trying to make a difference, there is already a collective sense of willingness, commitment and social obligation to tackle the issue. Leaders, organisations, communities and individuals want to work together to capitalise on what they are already doing that is good; they also want to learn from that and to share it more widely.

I want to outline our strategic approach to the committee’s recommendations. We will endeavour to build this strand of work into all of our on-going, broader programmes and the frameworks that are already in place—I am referring to the Government’s purpose and objectives, the national outcomes and the overarching approach to public service reform—because we recognise the issues that have been raised. Community planning partnerships and the health and social care partnerships, which Margaret McCulloch highlighted, have an important role and will be included. We can create an integrated approach to the specific issues of age and social isolation, as with all the other things that those partnerships have been set up to tackle. They exist to tackle the problems that no one service can tackle on its own, and they have developed considerably in their efficacy over the years for which they have been in place.

Under the Christie principles, we recognise the need to alter the balance of public services and to move away from crisis intervention towards more preventative approaches. That is an article of faith around the Parliament, and I am glad of that agreement. Tackling isolation before it leads to further harm is a perfect example of preventative action. Around Scotland, we have an ever-clearer view of what works in public service design and delivery and the challenges ahead. In all our work, we will drive things forward through a Scottish approach, which involves working in partnership rather than having experts who are detached from lived experience dictating from on high. That approach itself recognises the value in relationships, networks and the input of people who make up the communities. Health and fulfilment lie in attachment to others, to society and to having a life with purpose, but that attachment also informs what we do and it should inform good policy making.

The findings of the Equal Opportunities Committee’s report will be included in our fairer Scotland discussions and the subsequent social justice action plan. People with direct lived experience of various forms of exclusion are helping the Government to shape the way in which we deal with social justice. That will be true in respect of the literal form of exclusion that we are discussing, just as it is true of financial or any other form of exclusion. The people who have lived the challenges that we want to solve are the ones who are best placed to tell us the answers.

As we go through some of the main recommendations in the committee’s report, several jump out. A key recommendation is that the national social isolation strategy should be “integrated within all policy”. We completely agree that the changes that are needed for mainstream services to respond to isolation in a human way must be embedded in the approach and planning of a wide range of services, including health, education, housing and transport. We want our social justice action plan to have that same broad reach, and I believe that our forthcoming action plan can fulfil that role by making social connectedness an important element.

In connection with the two recommendations on the need for more evidence, we have committed to commissioning research and publishing findings in summer 2016 on how widespread isolation and loneliness are and on identifying those who are most at risk. That will include analysis of the association between social connectedness and a wide range of important physical and mental health measures, which will provide further rigorous evidence on which to base further action. As well as recognising what the problem is, as I think we all do, we must try to get insights into how we can start to tackle it and what works. In December 2015, NHS Scotland published a review on social prescribing in the context of mental health problems that looks at the benefits of linking systems much more widely.

I want to move on to the issue of a publicity campaign to raise awareness of social isolation. We certainly intend to work with our stakeholders and partners to consider what approaches we can use to raise awareness across communities and to tackle the stigma. A documentary called “The Age of Loneliness” that is to be shown on BBC 1 on Thursday night sets out to present the issue and will do so to a wide audience. I would love to claim the credit for that timely presentation on the television but I cannot, which again goes to show that the Government does not have the arm to reach into telling the BBC what to do.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15198, in the name of Margaret McCulloch, on the Equal Opportunities Committee’s report on age and social...
Margaret McCulloch (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
This is a good time for us to talk about social isolation and loneliness. During the festive period, many people will have been alone and thinking about what...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
The member mentioned stigma, but she has also mentioned just how widespread the problem of isolation is. Does she agree that it is a very widespread problem,...
Margaret McCulloch Lab
Yes, I totally agree with the member on that. The problem is widespread across Scotland and covers all age groups. Ms McCrindle also said that the Food Trai...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
Does the member agree with me and other committee members that we should monitor whatever evidence is taken with regard to a future strategy?
Margaret McCulloch Lab
Yes, I totally agree with that. It is also important that the Equal Opportunities Committee continually keeps an eye on the situation later. Mapping is also...
The Minister for Local Government and Community Empowerment (Marco Biagi) SNP
I thank Margaret McCulloch and all the members of the Equal Opportunities Committee for their inquiry into age and social isolation. This is a great opportun...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Hear, hear.
Marco Biagi SNP
Indeed—and long may that remain so. On the ground, there has been a surge of willingness from third sector stakeholders to be involved and to share good pra...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. We are quite tight for time today. I call Jenny Marra. 15:06
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank the committee very much for its inquiry and all the clerks and members for their work. I will start by picking up a strand that the minister threaded...
John Mason SNP
Does the member recognise the issue, which the committee addressed, of the difference between isolation and loneliness? Isolation can be measured to an exten...
Jenny Marra Lab
I absolutely agree with John Mason, who sat on the committee and heard the evidence. As I said to the minister, the Government has a role in supporting the n...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Do so in your last 30 seconds.
Jenny Marra Lab
I am glad that Alex Neil has responded to the recommendations and put the focus on services and budgets. We need a commitment from the Government—I think tha...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
All the razzmatazz of Christmas has come and gone. Some memories will fade, as with some presents, such as the jumper that gets lost at the back of the wardr...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I hope that the member recognises that to be alone is not necessarily to be lonely. For a small minority of people, being alone is a choice that they prefer ...
Annabel Goldie Con
That point is well made and is acknowledged in the report. I return to the significance of the report. Age Scotland considers that the committee is the firs...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to have contributed to the Equal Opportunities Committee’s inquiry into age and social isolation as a full member of the committee, and I add ...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I accept John Mason’s point that social isolation is objective and loneliness is subjective, but we all realise that there is a big overlap between the two a...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
One of the first challenges that we had in the committee was to come up with a definition of isolation. Members can see in paragraphs 5 and 6 on page 1 some ...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab) Lab
I hear what John Mason says about the appropriateness of people staying at home or going into care but does he agree that there is another group of people wh...
John Mason SNP
Johann Lamont raises a valid point because there may be some people in care homes who should be at home. There are also some at home who should be in care ho...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
I thank the committee for its hard work and for the development of the report that we are discussing. On the one hand it is motivating that the Scottish Par...
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
As a non-member of the committee, I welcome the opportunity to contribute to the debate. Reading the record of the evidence-taking sessions, two points stru...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
Before I call the next speaker, I remind members who wish to contribute that they should press their request-to-speak buttons. 15:50
Jayne Baxter (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I was a member of the Equal Opportunities Committee when it undertook its inquiry into age and social isolation. I thought at the time that our work could po...
Linda Fabiani (East Kilbride) (SNP) SNP
I found both the Equal Opportunities Committee’s report and the Government’s response to it very interesting. Colleagues’ speeches today have shown just how ...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab) Lab
I thank the committee for its report and I congratulate the convener, Margaret McCulloch, on outlining in her speech the detail of how the committee addresse...
Sandra White SNP
Does the member agree that more deep-end practice link workers and social prescribing, as recommended by the committee, would be one way of tackling what she...