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Meeting of the Parliament 06 January 2016

06 Jan 2016 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Age and Social Isolation

Yes, I totally agree with the member on that. The problem is widespread across Scotland and covers all age groups.

Ms McCrindle also said that the Food Train does not think that it is a

“coincidence that the same number of older people are affected by malnutrition and loneliness,”

and that in the Food Train’s experience

“the two are interlinked, which also means they can be successfully tackled together.”

We heard from the Institute for Research and Innovation in Social Services that people who are lonely are more likely to have health issues such as high blood pressure, poor sleep and depression. For older people, there are proven links between loneliness and poor health, including dementia rates. We also heard that, on average, socially isolated individuals are twice as likely to die prematurely and that they make poor choices on, for example, inactivity, smoking, alcohol use and diet. The Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland told us that people who experience loneliness are more likely to visit their GP, have higher use of medication and a higher incidence of falls, undergo early entry into residential or nursing care and use accident and emergency services more.

I have mentioned the commitment to tackle the loneliness that we uncovered, which is so important. Instead of finding that everyone was ignoring the issue or did not believe that it was important, we heard about many initiatives to tackle it. However, we felt that even more could be done, because all the projects and services told us that there were many people who, for a variety of reasons, they did not manage to reach. Without national prioritisation of the issue, we feel that there cannot be the large-scale improvement that we need to see. We recommended a strategy because we recognised that the issue of isolation has to be integrated into planning and services for things to really change.

We have noted the Scottish Government’s response to our recommendation that a national strategy should be developed. We recognise, as the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Communities and Pensioners’ Rights stated in his response, that it is important to strengthen individuals’ connections and resilience and that that work rests on the skills, trust and obligation of front-line workers and ordinary citizens. The Scottish Government considers that that work is very hard to manage from the centre and that, consequently, a strategy might not have the impact expected.

However, as a committee, we are committed to ensuring that there is a response to what we see as a worsening situation that has such a huge impact on so many members of our society that it is difficult to see how we can achieve better outcomes without a strategy. I take some reassurance, however, from the Scottish Government’s commitment to take more evidence on what works in addressing social isolation and loneliness, and from the fact that it is looking to build that more explicitly into public services.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
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John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
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Margaret McCulloch Lab
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Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
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Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Hear, hear.
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Many thanks. We are quite tight for time today. I call Jenny Marra. 15:06
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Jenny Marra Lab
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Do so in your last 30 seconds.
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Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
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Annabel Goldie Con
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Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
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John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
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Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab) Lab
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Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
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Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
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