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Meeting of the Parliament 17 December 2015

17 Dec 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Smoking Prohibition (Children in Motor Vehicles) (Scotland) Bill

It gives me great pleasure that the bill crosses party lines. We have a mutual goal of protecting children’s health in Scotland, which does the Parliament proud.

As I have said repeatedly, the bill’s goal is to protect children and young people under the age of 18 from the harmful effects of second-hand smoke. I am happy that the hard work that has been put in by everyone involved has resulted in a good, strong, cohesive and effective bill, which I hope and believe will be passed at decision time.

During its passage through Parliament, the bill was strengthened at stage 2 and given unanimous support. We are now faced with the decision of whether to take the last step of passing the bill, which will see at least 60,000 children a week in Scotland benefiting from better health. Detailed scrutiny of the bill and input from the 160 responses to my consultation, from the many organisations and individuals mentioned and from parliamentary committees have, at this final stage, brought to fruition a bill that will do what it was intended to do: protect the vulnerable from the toxic fumes of second-hand smoke in a very enclosed space.

I again thank all members on the committees involved for their constructive work, and I thank the ministerial team, fellow members and the numerous charities, organisations and academics who were involved. I also thank my own office—team Hume—past and present. It is good to see someone from the past—Craig Moran—in the public gallery.

There is one other person whom I would like to thank: a woman who was selfless throughout her life, gave rather than took, inspired me and drove me on to make a difference in my community. She was a non-smoker who died 5 years and one week ago from lung cancer, which doubtless was brought on by inhaling second-hand smoke: my mother, Joyce Hume. I dedicate this bill to her.

The consultation gathered wide and positive support. Its responses shaped the bill and it is a credit to the Parliament that we have the system that we do. Despite differing views on aspects of the legislation, we have a bill that is the next logical step in protecting the health of children. I believe that it will do that.

By developing policies on smoking, we are closing loopholes in legislation that are hazardous to children. As members pointed out, cutting down people’s exposure to smoking from an early age results in significant benefits. Research shows that children who are exposed to second-hand smoke are more likely to become smokers themselves. The Minister for Public Health emphasised that point in the Government’s take it right outside campaign, which she mentioned.

Campaigns have not been enough to protect the 60,000 children who every week are exposed to second-hand smoke in cars. In its report, the Health and Sport Committee says:

“education campaigns alone have not succeeded in protecting children from exposure to second-hand smoke in vehicles, and as such these further measures are needed.”

Change in behaviour is vital. Reducing children’s exposure to second-hand smoke in vehicles can not only have immediate benefits in protecting children’s respiratory systems but reduce the likelihood that they will develop conditions in future. We have the chance to shape a number of preventative measures that will free up NHS resources in the future, give children a better chance to get a healthier start in life and save millions of pounds and lives for generations to come. The bill is as much about the short-term benefits as it is about ensuring long-term benefits and the prevention of serious diseases such as lung cancer.

It was a famous inventor, Thomas Edison, who recognised that about a hundred years ago. He stated:

“The doctor of the future will give no medication, but will interest his patients in the care of the human frame, diet and in the cause and prevention of disease.”

The bill is in the interest of patients, cares for the human frame and goes a long way towards disease prevention. The future that Edison talked about is now. To truly protect children and their health, we must start preventing diseases and removing their catalysts.

I have had close and constructive contact with the Scottish Government and I hope that continues into the future as the bill is enacted and its provisions are put in place. It is appropriate that legislation that is designed to protect children must not be burdensome, confusing or hard to explain to anyone. That is why I am glad that, at this final stage, the bill stands as a clear and simple message to all. It also provides clarity for the police officers and environmental officers who will enforce the bill’s provisions.

To that end, I am encouraged that Scottish ministers will undertake a campaign on commencement of the bill’s provisions under section 5. I welcome the fact that a high-profile information and awareness campaign will accompany this important new law. We want people to realise and understand the detriments to children’s health from second-hand smoke and to recognise that opening the window makes little difference and can, in fact, worsen the intensity of smoke in the rear seats.

The campaign could add to the bill’s benefits, because it could provide positive spillovers and more opportunities for a wider part of the population who might not have children at the moment but might alter their behaviour when they give their friends a lift to work.

The provisions in the bill can be clearly understood and enforced. They will be effective in encouraging a cultural shift towards healthier habits and a better understanding of the dangers of second-hand smoke, even when it cannot be seen. The bill will also have a positive impact on improving the health of future generations to come.

That is why voting for the bill is in the interests of parents, children and their future children, in that it will remove one more harmful factor from our lifestyles. The bill has had the backing of the British Medical Association, the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland, Cancer Research UK, the British Heart Foundation, the British Lung Foundation and many more; a long list of supporters and health professionals, who are the people who know.

It sets the Parliament in good standing to be one of the pioneering Parliaments in Europe to adopt such legislation. The British Heart Foundation recognises the bill as

“the first … to introduce the debate about regulating smoking in vehicles in any UK Parliament”.

The BHF goes on to say that the bill has sparked “great media debate” and that its progress

“has led to a ban in England and Wales”.

We can be proud that the Scottish Parliament has again led the way in protecting the vulnerable. It will give children in Scotland a better start in life, knowing that this aspect of their health is legally protected in such an enclosed space.

I conclude by again thanking those who were involved for their co-operative approach. We have a bill that can help to ensure that 60,000 children every week in Scotland get the healthy start to life that they deserve. I look forward to support from across the chamber today at decision time.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item is a debate on motion S4M-15146, in the name of Jim Hume, on the Smoking Prohibition (Children in Motor Vehicles) (Scotland) Bill. I invite mem...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
It gives me great pleasure to open this afternoon’s debate on the Smoking Prohibition (Children in Motor Vehicles) (Scotland) Bill. The bill was introduced o...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I will congratulate the member on his bill in my speech, but I wanted to ask him whether, in the course of considering the evidence on extending the smoking ...
Jim Hume LD
That issue was not consulted on at all. We concentrated absolutely on smoking in motor vehicles, and that is what we consulted on. It might be interesting to...
The Minister for Public Health (Maureen Watt) SNP
I congratulate Jim Hume on introducing the bill and thank him for working closely with the Scottish Government over the past few months, as we worked togethe...
Jenny Marra Lab
On the same point that I raised with Jim Hume, will the Government consider legislating on smoking in shared stairwells in tenement buildings? I am sure that...
Maureen Watt SNP
I have had representations and correspondence about that from members and others. The introduction of such measures is not without its challenges, but we are...
Jenny Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The last bill of 2015 is very well scheduled, as we woke this morning to a new report about cancer and its risk factors. In debates in the chamber, we genera...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I begin where Jenny Marra finished, by congratulating Jim Hume on the progress of his member’s bill through to what I think will be unanimous support at deci...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP) SNP
As others have done, I congratulate Jim Hume on getting his Smoking Prohibition (Children in Motor Vehicles) (Scotland) Bill to stage 3. I lodged my propos...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Stewart Maxwell mentioned enforcement. Is he as convinced as Mr Hume is that it will work? I see many drivers still using their mobile phones in their cars. ...
Stewart Maxwell SNP
Strangely enough, that intervention has echoes of the arguments that were made in 2003, 2004 and 2005 in advance of the smoking ban coming in. There is a dif...
Jim Hume LD
It is a misconception that there is no enforcement of the legislation on using mobile phones in cars or wearing seat belts. According to the last figures tha...
Stewart Maxwell SNP
I thank Mr Hume for that statistic. I think—he probably does, too—that the general public will accept the bill similarly to how they accepted the original ba...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Mr Maxwell, could you conclude, please.
Stewart Maxwell SNP
The public is in favour of the bill, health professionals are in favour of the bill, and the time is ripe for us to protect our children and move Scotland to...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Malcolm Chisholm. Speeches should be of four minutes, please. 15:30
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Jim Hume on introducing the bill, which I am sure that everyone will vote for at decision time. We went over some of the arguments when we d...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
As we round off our work on the bill, I add my thanks to the witnesses who gave both written and oral evidence to the Health and Sport Committee as we scruti...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I join other members in congratulating Jim Hume on introducing the bill and seeing it through all its processes. I hope to do something similar in the spring...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
You said that you were just about to finish, Dr Simpson.
Dr Simpson Lab
I am. I support the bill and the call for a debate—in Government time—on major public health issues. 15:42
Maureen Watt SNP
I thank all members for their constructive and almost entirely consensual speeches on what is a very important piece of legislation for the health of Scotlan...
Jim Hume LD
It gives me great pleasure that the bill crosses party lines. We have a mutual goal of protecting children’s health in Scotland, which does the Parliament pr...