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Meeting of the Parliament 17 December 2015

17 Dec 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Air Strikes (Syria)
Urquhart, Jean Ind Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

I congratulate John Wilson on bringing this timely debate to the Parliament. I am only sorry that there are not more members who regard the subject as one of the most important that we can debate.

I agree with almost everything that I have heard from other members, who made powerful speeches. I cannot add to what they said, but I want to talk about the seriousness of war and the lack of coverage in our media. We know what the bombs are capable of, because we can find out for ourselves, but the media are not showing, and never do show, the harshness of war. The reality was described well by members to the few people who were here to hear them, and what was said will be in the Official Report.

Scotland is a nation, although defence and military matters are still reserved to Westminster, and there is no doubt whatever that Scotland’s representatives, who owe their positions to the democratic process of the people of this country, voted against bombing in Syria. That should have been a headline that was repeated and repeated.

The bombing is not in my name, and, as Christina McKelvie said, not in our country’s name. We knew what would happen. It is no surprise that bombing will not fix anything; it did not fix anything in the past and it will not do so now.

What is needed is humanitarian aid, perhaps starting in this country. To spend £100,000 on a bomb is an obscenity when thousands of people in this country have no food and there is a genuine desire to help Syrian refugees.

Why are we allowing this to happen? I ask the minister, our Government and all members of the Parliament how we can get that message into a press that is supporting the arms race and is not reflecting the views of the 78 per cent of people in the country who oppose the bombing in Syria, according to a recent poll. How do we ensure that our nationhood and our people’s desire not to bomb Syria are expressed? How does Westminster react when a country has expressed clear objection and wants to take no part in the war?

I welcome John Wilson’s motion, but the debate is not over and we should be making our voices heard much more strongly. If we can bomb Syria, we will bomb again the next time. We will not learn and we will be constantly carried along by a Westminster military machine that does not reflect the will of the Scottish people.

13:13  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S4M-15046, in the name of John Wilson, on Syrian air strikes. The debate will be concluded ...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (Ind) Ind
First, I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I thank the members who signed the motion to allow us to have the debate,...
Elaine Smith (Coatbridge and Chryston) (Lab) Lab
Will Mr Wilson confirm that those of us who disagree with bombing are not saying that we should do nothing?
John Wilson Ind
I thank Elaine Smith for that intervention, and I will address that issue later. The haste with which British planes began bombing Syria—mere hours after th...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I thank the member for taking my intervention and I apologise for not being able to stay because I am hosting an event for Syrian refugees. Will he join me i...
John Wilson Ind
That is something that I will cover later, too. At home, local authorities across Scotland, including those in Central Scotland, have been preparing to welc...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
I thank John Wilson for bringing this timely debate to our chamber. As we all break for Christmas and think about having time with our families and children,...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate John Wilson on lodging the motion and I support the thrust of it. However, each potential war situation is unique and must be looked at on its...
Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I congratulate John Wilson on securing time in Parliament for this important debate. I entirely agree with his remarks about Islamophobia and the need to put...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
I, too, congratulate John Wilson on bringing this pertinent motion and giving us all an opportunity to discuss it. The motion talks about “bombing densely p...
Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) SNP
I thank John Wilson for bringing the issue of the decision by the UK Government to launch air strikes in Syria to the attention of the Scottish Parliament in...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I, too, congratulate John Wilson on bringing the debate to the chamber. There have been some really good contributions from members. I had feared, watching s...
Jean Urquhart (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
I congratulate John Wilson on bringing this timely debate to the Parliament. I am only sorry that there are not more members who regard the subject as one of...
The Minister for Europe and International Development (Humza Yousaf) SNP
I thank John Wilson for securing the debate and I thank all the members who contributed to what has been a thoughtful debate. The crisis in Syria is one of ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Thank you all for taking part in that important debate. 13:21 Meeting suspended. 14:30 On resuming—