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Meeting of the Parliament 15 December 2015

15 Dec 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Redesigning Primary Care
Milne, Nanette Con North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I am pleased that we are being given the opportunity today to discuss the way forward for primary care in Scotland. Throughout my time in Parliament, we have heard of an impending crisis within the NHS as more people are living longer, with many people in their senior years coping with complex health problems.

The Scottish Government’s 2020 vision is what we all wish for—being able to live at home or in a homely setting for as long as possible, avoiding hospital admission unless we really require specialist in-patient care and then returning to the community as soon as possible with the support services that we need in place. However, the system is currently creaking at the seams due to doctors retiring early, an ageing nursing workforce, young medical graduates being unwilling to face the stresses of general practice and difficulty in recruiting the good home carers that are essential if the frail elderly are to sustain a reasonable quality of life within the community.

I supported the 2004 GP contract because of the difficulty at that time in recruiting young doctors who were prepared to undertake the 24/7 on-call responsibilities of their predecessors. That contract has now run its course and recruitment has fallen again—this time because the demands on the service are leaving GPs with too little time for face-to-face contact with the patients who really need their expertise, and a workload that is stressful and which is leading to a less than satisfactory work-life balance.

Because of the undoubted challenges that are facing the system, it has been all too easy for opposition political parties to attack the Government on health issues which I frankly think—as Jackson Carlaw does—is not good either for patients or for the NHS staff who, in the vast majority of cases, provide a tremendous service for patients, most of whom are very grateful for the care that they receive. I am therefore glad that there now seems to be some consensus developing on the way forward.

The excellent report that was published recently by Sir Lewis Ritchie on out-of-hours care gives an in-depth analysis of the current situation and a comprehensive assessment of what is needed for a sustainable and—to quote Sir Lewis’s report—“seamless service” that not only meets the needs of patients but offers

“a valued working and learning environment for all those delivering health and care Services—whether that be NHS, local authority social services”

or the third sector.

The thrust of the recommendations is that there is a need to develop multidisciplinary teams that include GPs, nurses, AHPs, community pharmacists, social care and other specialists all working together to secure the best out-of-hours care for patients in urgent-care resource hubs across Scotland.

Sir Lewis Ritchie’s recommendations for out-of-hours care would sit well with the daytime integrated health and social care service that is envisaged by most experts who have considered the issue, and with the Scottish Government’s plans to transform primary care services in the light of the demands of an ageing population, and as health and social care services are integrated. I look forward to the Government’s detailed response to the out-of-hours report early next year, and to how it proposes to implement it nationally. I also look forward to hearing the detail of the new general medical services contract that is currently being negotiated with the profession. I am pleased that the Government has now announced the end of the QOF, which has undoubtedly outlived its usefulness.

The future of primary care is clearly at a crossroads at the present time, and the BMA and others point the way forward by stating that the role of GPs and other primary care professionals must be to make best use of the unique skills of each, with proposals that GPs become more involved in complex care and system-wide activities, and that the more routine tasks become more reliant on other health professionals in the wider community team. As senior decision makers, GPs would be seen as the expert generalists in their communities, able to support their local teams where their specific expertise is required.

As has been emphasised by the BMA, the core of general practice that is expected by patients and is the basis for learning the necessary skills has to be personal contact with patients who are, or who see themselves as being, unwell. However, because of limited capacity, there will have to be a balance struck between access to GP appointments, access to other health professionals including nurses and community pharmacists where that is more appropriate, and encouraging supported self-care where appropriate, aided by the use of modern communications technology.

For that to be acceptable to the public, effort will be needed to explain why the changes are required and how they will work. Practices would become the patients’ gateway to appropriate services, and would be overseen and managed by GPs to ensure that patients get the care that is best suited to their needs. For that to be effective, GPs must be at the core of health and social integration at locality level. Indeed, if they are not significantly involved and engaged with integration joint boards, I cannot see integration being successful. As I understand it, that involvement is currently patchy across the country.

It is never easy to change the way we work, and health and social care professionals come from different cultural backgrounds. They will need support to learn different ways of working together with mutual respect for each other, as they seek the best outcomes for the patients in their care. That is already beginning to happen, and there are many good examples of professional co-operation, not least in my region.

For example, the NHS Grampian out-of-hours model employs a significant number of advanced nurse practitioners—all of whom are, or are training to be, independent prescribers—in the main centre in Aberdeen alongside GPs, team members from the Scottish Ambulance Service, community psychiatric and district nurses, Marie Curie nurses and on-site pharmacy provision, and are collocated with NHS 24. Different arrangements apply in the rural centres, where help is available from the main centre via video and telephone links.

If primary care is once again to attract and retain young medical graduates, every indication is that we have to develop team working involving all health professionals, including nurses, AHPs and pharmacists working together with social care and the third and independent sectors. If we can achieve that—at the moment, there is the will, but there is a long journey ahead—we can build a sustainable system of good care in our communities. I think that we are on the cusp of some exciting developments in primary care. I am just sorry that I will not be in Parliament when they come to fruition.

15:50  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-15172, in the name of Shona Robison, on redesigning primary care for Scotland’s communities. 14:33
The Cabinet Secretary for Health, Wellbeing and Sport (Shona Robison) SNP
I am pleased to be opening this afternoon’s debate. I want to take the opportunity to describe my longer-term vision for primary care, building on Sir Lewis ...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I welcome the publication of those figures today, but it is regrettable that we do not have the full-time equivalent numbers. The headcount does not reflect ...
Shona Robison SNP
No, but a survey will take place that I think will provide more in-depth analysis of some of the data to which Richard Simpson refers. I accept that there a...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I draw members’ attention to my declaration of interests as a member of the BMA and a fellow of the Royal College of General Practitioners. The debate is we...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
I can give you an extra minute or so.
Dr Simpson Lab
That is kind of you—thank you very much. Such practice or locality groups are variously referred to in different documents as clusters, networks, federation...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I need you to close now please, Dr Simpson.
Dr Simpson Lab
Finally, I hope that the Government will publish a set of principles that it seeks to use to underpin any new contract. The task is daunting but, if we all w...
Jim Hume (South Scotland) (LD) LD
I associate myself with the cabinet secretary’s comments about Richard Simpson. I hope that he continues to have an active role, and I am sure that he shall....
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Like the cabinet secretary, I begin by paying tribute to the staff who will be working extremely hard over the winter and the Christmas season. As I noted in...
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP
I start, as some other members have, by thanking the staff who work in our health service. I speak as someone who represents fairly widely-flung communities ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Could you draw to a close please?
Nigel Don SNP
All the Government has to do is provide those people with an opportunity to contribute. Our job is to make sure that they can do so effectively by ensuring t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you. I am afraid that there is not a lot of time in hand this afternoon, so I ask members to keep to six minutes. 15:18
Margaret McCulloch (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I put on record my appreciation for the hard work and dedication of GPs. We as a society depend on their skills, experience, hard work and sense of duty to o...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to be able to take part in this important debate. Like Jackson Carlaw, I thank the Scottish Government for the content of the motion, particular...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Sandra White SNP
No, I am sorry, but I will not take an intervention. When we look at primary care and integration, will we have data from each local authority to show that...
Drew Smith (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
The report from Professor Sir Lewis Ritchie is a good one, which makes sensible points about the reform of out-of-hours primary practice. I agree with much ...
Bob Doris (Glasgow) (SNP) SNP
We all know that there are significant challenges to delivering healthcare, given the demographic trends that present us with an ever ageing and increasingly...
Nanette Milne (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased that we are being given the opportunity today to discuss the way forward for primary care in Scotland. Throughout my time in Parliament, we have...
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in this important debate. I know from the opposition parties’ amendments that the core of their argument seems to be about allocation o...
Jim Hume LD
Will Mike MacKenzie take an intervention?
Mike MacKenzie SNP
No, thank you.
Jackson Carlaw Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Mike MacKenzie SNP
No, thank you.
Mike MacKenzie SNP
However, thanks to the democratic deficit in our constitutional arrangements—Smith or no Smith, Scotland act or no Scotland act—we are stuck with austerity. ...
Jackson Carlaw Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I wonder whether Mike MacKenzie intends to address himself to the terms of the motion that is before us for debate th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
As Mr Carlaw knows, that is not a point of order. However, the point has been made.