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Meeting of the Parliament 03 December 2015

03 Dec 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Sex Offenders

First, I thank my colleague Paul Martin for raising a difficult and challenging issue. It is one that we repeatedly struggle with and find difficult to resolve.

Secondly, I thank Margaret Ann Cummings for maintaining a positive role on behalf of all victims and survivors of crimes of sexual abuse and of death at the hands of sex offenders and for reminding those of us in authority in this Parliament and the Government of the need to constantly revisit these issues and to acknowledge that we have still not found a way to get this right. It may well be that, in this world, we will never get it absolutely right, but that does not mean that we should not strive to repair the elements that we identify as having shortcomings.

A lot has been said about the MAPPA environment, and there have been many positive comments about its development over the years. I see today’s debate not as a criticism of the Government or what has gone on in the past, but as a contribution to our consideration of how best we can do things in the future.

I acknowledge that, although MAPPA has been a step change for us, we rely too heavily on the notion that it exists and take comfort from that when, in fact, we should continue to challenge what MAPPA does on our behalf. We should realise that the officers and members of the other services who contribute knowledge to it balance many stresses and anxieties as they try to manage, probably, too many demands with too few resources at their fingertips.

Behind that, too, I would like to see it acknowledged that although we have an intelligence management system in Scotland, it is not as robust and effective as it should be. I would like to hear from the cabinet secretary that he will take a second look at the way in which information technology systems operate across the public services to manage the dangerous circumstances that repeat sex offenders present to all services.

Mention was made of the global positioning system tracking systems that are available. I am told by those who manage the electronic surveillance of those who are on remand and subject to supervision that the system can be switched on at the flick of a switch. We need to face the challenge and ask whether we want to use GPS tracking. If the answer is yes, we need to get on with it sooner rather than later. If the answer is no, we need to work out what it is about the tracking system that is not available to us now.

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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The Parliament is still in session and I ask guests who are leaving the gallery to do so quietly, please. The next item of business is a members’ business d...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Provan) (Lab) Lab
I recognise that the management of sex offenders is a difficult subject that challenges politicians in many countries. As we consider that, let us also consi...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Paul Martin on securing this debate, and I recognise the courageous campaign of Margaret Ann Cummings, which came about after the horrendous m...
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab) Lab
I, too, congratulate my colleague Paul Martin on his long-standing commitment to and campaigning on this issue and, of course, Margaret Ann Cummings, who has...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank Paul Martin for bringing this important debate to the chamber. It is a motion that I was more than happy to sign, not least because it gives deserved...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
The member’s comment that there was an increase of a third in the number of breaches is factually incorrect. Year on year, the proportion of breaches is broa...
Margaret Mitchell Con
I thank the cabinet secretary for that clarification, but it is still not in any way a statistic that we can be proud of. Urgent analysis needs to be carrie...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Michael Matheson SNP
Mr Martin mentioned the establishment of the working group. The expert advisory group has been in place for a number of months and its report, which is just ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You can have the time back for the intervention, Mr Pearson.
Graeme Pearson Lab
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The Minister for Housing and Welfare (Margaret Burgess) SNP
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Paul Martin Lab
The report also said that sex offenders could expect a monitoring visit once a month. Is that acceptable for the most serious offenders?
Margaret Burgess SNP
We have received the report and we accept every recommendation in it. We all agree that the issue is very difficult, and I understand and share the concerns ...
Christine Grahame SNP
I have looked through the recommendations and I return to rehousing sex offenders under the national accommodation strategy for them. I have been chasing the...
Margaret Burgess SNP
I understand Christine Grahame’s concerns about the housing of sex offenders in communities. However, in every case when a sex offender is housed in a commun...
Patricia Ferguson Lab
Will the minister give way?
Margaret Burgess SNP
I want to push on a bit. If I have time, I will come back to Patricia Ferguson. A number of members have mentioned the report on sex offending by the Justic...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab) Lab
Will the minister give way?
Margaret Burgess SNP
I want to push on for a bit, and then I will come back to the member. Implementing that recommendation would make it harder to monitor offenders and manage ...
Johann Lamont Lab
Does the minister recognise the urgency of a situation in which housing associations are saying and communities are feeling that sex offenders are being hous...
Margaret Burgess SNP
On the budget, I cannot speak for the justice secretary, but I know that across government we are looking carefully at the monitoring of sex offenders. I wil...