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Equal Opportunities Committee 26 November 2015

26 Nov 2015 · S4 · Equal Opportunities Committee
Item of business
“Gypsy/Travellers in Scotland” (Scottish Housing Regulator Report)
Christine MacLeod Watch on SPTV
Thank you, convener, for the invitation to give evidence to the committee about our thematic inquiry into Gypsy Travellers in Scotland. Our sole objective as the Scottish Housing Regulator is to safeguard and promote the interests of tenants and others who use social landlords’ housing services. This was the Scottish Housing Regulator’s first thematic inquiry into Gypsy Travellers in Scotland. We published our major report earlier this month and presented our findings and recommendations at a meeting of the Traveller Site Managers Association at the official Gypsy Traveller site at Bridgend in Stirling. Our report on Gypsy Travellers in Scotland looks at social landlords’ management and maintenance of their official sites and how they are applying the Scottish Government’s Scottish social housing charter. We assessed the performance of the 20 social landlords in Scotland, who provide 29 official sites for Gypsy Travellers. We spoke directly to Gypsy Travellers to hear about their experiences, as well as carrying out survey work with social landlords and analysing national performance information. We also considered evidence from other sources such as this committee’s inquiry into where Gypsy Travellers live. We recognise that Gypsy Travellers are hard to reach, so we were delighted that 49 Gypsy Travellers across five official sites participated in our thematic inquiry. That gave us important and valuable access to the individual experiences of Gypsy Travellers who use social landlords’ services. We found that social landlords do not always apply relevant charter standards to their Gypsy Traveller services and sites, and that Gypsy Travellers in Scotland are not always receiving the standard of service that they should receive from their social landlord. We also found that some landlords are listening to Gypsy Travellers and are considering their particular needs, and our report gives examples of positive practice that landlords told us about. We included recommendations for social landlords that are aimed at improving the quality and consistency of the services that are provided to Gypsy Traveller site residents throughout the country. Principally, we recommended that social landlords apply all relevant charter standards and outcomes to residents of official Gypsy Traveller sites. We recognise that the Scottish Government has recently published helpful guidance that sets out new minimum standards for official sites as well as core rights and responsibilities, and we think that those new site standards and responsibilities have the potential to make a real difference in improving services across Scotland. We called for all social landlords with official sites to act on our recommendations and to provide an equal standard of service to both Gypsy Travellers and social housing tenants. We will provide feedback about our findings and recommendations to the Gypsy Travellers who took part in our inquiry. We intend to publish a version of our findings and recommendations for Gypsy Travellers, and we expect landlords to promote that information at their sites. We will also ask Gypsy Travellers about how we can best promote it among their community. We will use the findings of our inquiry to determine whether there is a need for us to engage further with any individual social landlords specifically in relation to the charter standards and the services that are provided at their sites. We will also be keen to work with others and to contribute to their role in promoting implementation of the new standards. Having completed our thematic inquiry, we now have an evidence base against which to measure future performance. We will build on that next year, through assessing landlords’ annual returns on the charter, and we will be looking for evidence of improvement.

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The Convener (Margaret McCulloch) Lab
I welcome everybody to the 20th meeting in 2015 of the Equal Opportunities Committee. I ask everyone to put any electronic devices into flight mode or switch...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
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Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Good morning, I am an MSP for West Scotland.
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
Madainn mhath. Good morning. I am an MSP for the Highlands and Islands.
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I am the MSP for Glasgow Shettleston.
Kathleen McInulty (Scottish Housing Regulator)
I am assistant director at the Scottish Housing Regulator.
Christine MacLeod (Scottish Housing Regulator)
I am director of regulation at the Scottish Housing Regulator.
John Jenkins (Scottish Housing Regulator)
Good morning. I am regulation manager at the Scottish Housing Regulator.
The Convener Lab
Thank you for coming along this morning to give us some information about your report. We will start with some questions from John Mason. Interruption. Sorry...
Christine MacLeod
Would that be possible?
The Convener Lab
Yes—no problem.
Christine MacLeod
Thank you, convener, for the invitation to give evidence to the committee about our thematic inquiry into Gypsy Travellers in Scotland. Our sole objective as...
The Convener Lab
Thank you—that was really interesting. We look forward to hearing your answers to our questions; John Mason will begin.
John Mason SNP
That was a very interesting update, and I appreciated the report, which is encouraging. I think that you said that it is the first time that the Scottish Hou...
Christine MacLeod
The predecessor bodies had a remit in relation to Gypsy Travellers and undertook what were called thematic inspections that were based on the standards and t...
John Mason SNP
You said that you had engaged, and you gave us a bit of information about that. I would be interested in hearing a bit more about that. Did you try to get Gy...
Christine MacLeod
My colleague Kathleen McInulty will answer that question.
Kathleen McInulty
Our engagement with Gypsy Travellers in the inquiry was primarily through our national panel of tenants and service users, which we established in 2013 as an...
John Mason SNP
Can you explain what you mean by the term “panel”? When I think of a panel, I think of five people sitting at a table, but it is obviously not that. Is it a ...
Kathleen McInulty
Yes. The national panel is run independently by Craigforth, a social research organisation. In total, it has 430 members, some of whom are Gypsy Travellers. ...
John Mason SNP
Okay, but it was specifically the Gypsy Traveller folk who were commenting for the inquiry.
Kathleen McInulty
That is correct.
John Mason SNP
Does the charter that you referred to apply across the board? I seem to be picking up that maybe some of the housing associations had not realised that it ap...
Christine MacLeod
It does. The charter’s purpose is to improve the quality of services that social landlords provide by setting out standards and outcomes that social landlord...
John Mason SNP
That seems quite clear. What would happen if a landlord had been a good landlord for the majority of their tenants but had forgotten about the Gypsy Travelle...
Christine MacLeod
Yes. When we looked at landlords in the thematic inquiry, we were looking specifically—
John Mason SNP
I was thinking more of your annual assessments.
Christine MacLeod
The information that we collect every year—social landlords’ annual returns—relates very specifically to the charter. They are annual returns on the charter....
John Mason SNP
My fear is that a landlord could appear to be doing quite well if they were doing quite well for 95 per cent of their tenants. The fact that they were not do...