Committee
Equal Opportunities Committee 26 November 2015
26 Nov 2015 · S4 · Equal Opportunities Committee
Item of business
“Gypsy/Travellers in Scotland” (Scottish Housing Regulator Report)
Thank you for coming along this morning to give us some information about your report. We will start with some questions from John Mason. Interruption. Sorry—do you want to give an update?
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The Convener (Margaret McCulloch)
Lab
I welcome everybody to the 20th meeting in 2015 of the Equal Opportunities Committee. I ask everyone to put any electronic devices into flight mode or switch...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP)
SNP
Good morning, everyone. I am the MSP for Glasgow Kelvin and deputy convener of the committee.
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP)
SNP
Good morning. I am an MSP for North East Scotland.
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con)
Con
Good morning, I am an MSP for West Scotland.
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind)
Ind
Madainn mhath. Good morning. I am an MSP for the Highlands and Islands.
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP)
SNP
I am the MSP for Glasgow Shettleston.
Kathleen McInulty (Scottish Housing Regulator)
I am assistant director at the Scottish Housing Regulator.
Christine MacLeod (Scottish Housing Regulator)
I am director of regulation at the Scottish Housing Regulator.
John Jenkins (Scottish Housing Regulator)
Good morning. I am regulation manager at the Scottish Housing Regulator.
The Convener
Lab
Thank you for coming along this morning to give us some information about your report. We will start with some questions from John Mason. Interruption. Sorry...
Christine MacLeod
Would that be possible?
The Convener
Lab
Yes—no problem.
Christine MacLeod
Thank you, convener, for the invitation to give evidence to the committee about our thematic inquiry into Gypsy Travellers in Scotland. Our sole objective as...
The Convener
Lab
Thank you—that was really interesting. We look forward to hearing your answers to our questions; John Mason will begin.
John Mason
SNP
That was a very interesting update, and I appreciated the report, which is encouraging. I think that you said that it is the first time that the Scottish Hou...
Christine MacLeod
The predecessor bodies had a remit in relation to Gypsy Travellers and undertook what were called thematic inspections that were based on the standards and t...
John Mason
SNP
You said that you had engaged, and you gave us a bit of information about that. I would be interested in hearing a bit more about that. Did you try to get Gy...
Christine MacLeod
My colleague Kathleen McInulty will answer that question.
Kathleen McInulty
Our engagement with Gypsy Travellers in the inquiry was primarily through our national panel of tenants and service users, which we established in 2013 as an...
John Mason
SNP
Can you explain what you mean by the term “panel”? When I think of a panel, I think of five people sitting at a table, but it is obviously not that. Is it a ...
Kathleen McInulty
Yes. The national panel is run independently by Craigforth, a social research organisation. In total, it has 430 members, some of whom are Gypsy Travellers. ...
John Mason
SNP
Okay, but it was specifically the Gypsy Traveller folk who were commenting for the inquiry.
Kathleen McInulty
That is correct.
John Mason
SNP
Does the charter that you referred to apply across the board? I seem to be picking up that maybe some of the housing associations had not realised that it ap...
Christine MacLeod
It does. The charter’s purpose is to improve the quality of services that social landlords provide by setting out standards and outcomes that social landlord...
John Mason
SNP
That seems quite clear. What would happen if a landlord had been a good landlord for the majority of their tenants but had forgotten about the Gypsy Travelle...
Christine MacLeod
Yes. When we looked at landlords in the thematic inquiry, we were looking specifically—
John Mason
SNP
I was thinking more of your annual assessments.
Christine MacLeod
The information that we collect every year—social landlords’ annual returns—relates very specifically to the charter. They are annual returns on the charter....
John Mason
SNP
My fear is that a landlord could appear to be doing quite well if they were doing quite well for 95 per cent of their tenants. The fact that they were not do...