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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 25 November 2015

25 Nov 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Clyde and Hebrides Ferry Services
Stewart, David Lab Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

As a lifelong trade unionist, I warmly welcome to the gallery this afternoon officials and members representing CalMac Ferries and beyond. I would ask all members to congratulate them on their outstanding campaign to fight for jobs and services for CalMac. [Applause.]

If anyone was in any doubt about the insidious Trade Union Bill, which is weaving its way through Westminster, I say to them, come to the Scottish Parliament today and see in action trade unionism at its best—dedicated men and women, steeped in their community, committed to retaining top-quality public sector jobs and services.

I want to thank the local and national media for their positive coverage of our campaigns, particularly the Daily Record, which has been four-square behind the crusade to keep CalMac and carry on.

A few years ago when I was on holiday in Skye and having lunch in a cafe in Portree, I found a story about Caledonian MacBrayne in a local community paper. CalMac, as it is usually known, is a publicly owned ferry company that has become an institution. It is wedded to the Scottish psyche and is as identifiable as Stornoway black pudding, Walker’s shortbread and Barr’s Irn Bru. The story in the community paper included a poem that local children had made up, which went as follows:

Unto the Lord belongs the earth
And all that it contains.
Except the Kyles and the Western Isles
For they are all MacBrayne’s.

CalMac was formed on new year’s day in 1973 when two companies, the Caledonian Steam Packet Company and David MacBrayne Ltd, whose histories go back two centuries, amalgamated.

Even the names of the CalMac fleet—Loch Seaforth, Finlaggan and Isle of Lewis, for example—evoke the rich tapestry of Scotland’s past. It is as if the vessels themselves project a personality and character of their own. They are a west coast extended family, which is part of the DNA of the Highlands and Islands.

However, the very survival of CalMac is at risk. CalMac is engaged in a head-to-head competition with Serco, the international facilities company, for the Scottish Government contract for ferry services on lifeline Clyde and Hebrides routes.

The loss of the contract would in effect mean the end of CalMac. Vessels would go to Serco, staff would go to Serco and routes would go to Serco. Without the Clyde and Hebrides routes, CalMac would disappear and there would be no public ferry service to challenge Serco in future. That would leave lifeline services, along with services to the northern isles, well and truly in private hands.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-14942, in the name of David Stewart, on keeping CalMac public. Before we start the debate, I remind membe...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
As a lifelong trade unionist, I warmly welcome to the gallery this afternoon officials and members representing CalMac Ferries and beyond. I would ask all me...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
David Stewart Lab
Not now. I will take an intervention from the member later. Let us not forget that CalMac has run the Clyde and Hebrides ferry routes at profit in every yea...
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
David Stewart Lab
Not now. As the West Highland Free Press said: “Serco is not a shipping company. It is a multi-faceted specialist in outsourcing which exists to exploit th...
Chic Brodie SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
David Stewart Lab
Not now. We know how the model works: the Tories privatise an asset; Serco bids to manage the asset; it then cuts the service to the bone and posts a handso...
Chic Brodie SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
David Stewart Lab
Not at this point. In a parliamentary question in June this year, I asked the transport minister whether he had raised the Teckal exemption with the Europea...
The Minister for Transport and Islands (Derek Mackay) SNP
If David Stewart cared to expand on the answer that I gave him, members would hear that the Teckal exemption is irrelevant because the maritime cabotage regu...
David Stewart Lab
I note what the minister says, and I might have some news for him and the Scottish National Party Government in my speech. Over the summer, I headed to Brus...
The Minister for Transport and Islands (Derek Mackay) SNP
I will begin on a point of consensus. Whatever my disagreement with David Stewart on the legal opinion or on matters of interpretation, and whatever disagree...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow Pollok) (Lab) Lab
The minister says that the Scottish Government wants publicly owned ferry services. Does he think that a private company can deliver a publicly owned service...
Derek Mackay SNP
As a consequence of our designing the tender process, we will continue to own the vessels and to set fares and timetables. In that sense, the services are st...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
At what point will the minister acknowledge not just Teckal’s existence but the fact that case law and the decisions taken on Teckal have changed the circums...
Derek Mackay SNP
The member knows that it is not practice to share legal advice with others, but a useful exercise over the summer considered the legal advice, and I am afrai...
David Stewart Lab
Will the minister give way?
Derek Mackay SNP
Of course.
David Stewart Lab
I understand the minister’s point, but does he understand that it is in his power today to enforce the 2014 EU procurement directives, which make it easier t...
Derek Mackay SNP
David Stewart keeps on returning to the matter of legal opinion. It is our opinion that we have to undertake the process—there is no escaping it. Within the ...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Any student of politics of any duration who looked in on today’s debate would obviously be inspired by the nature of the debate so far—although they might ge...
Johann Lamont Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Alex Johnstone Con
No, thank you—not at the moment. That affection for CalMac is genuine because so many people who depend on its services know that CalMac is the provider. On...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
Will the member give way?
Alex Johnstone Con
No, thank you. We must get a handle on the cost of ferry services. We support in principle the notion that the Government advanced of the road equivalent ta...
Derek Mackay SNP
Does the member not accept that that is partly to do with the very aim that I have suggested—that of safeguarding the lifeline services and not having them p...
Alex Johnstone Con
That would have been the effect had the services been completely unbundled but, as the Government and the minister know, the services could have been partly ...
Tavish Scott (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I say to Mr Johnstone that the truth is that we lost a vote, as one or two colleagues on the far benches will well remember. Back in 2005, lots of Labour col...