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Meeting of the Parliament 11 November 2015

11 Nov 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Energy Storage Network
Stevenson, Stewart SNP Banffshire and Buchan Coast Watch on SPTV

Other members have mentioned Tom Johnston, but one key aspiration that he had has not yet been referred to. He imagined that, with the building of hydroelectric schemes, we would get to a position where no charge was made for the electricity that was supplied, because there was no cost in the energy source from which it came. That sounds like fantasy, except that it is now happening in Texas.

In reading The New York Times on Sunday, I spotted that TXU Energy of Texas, which is the state in the United States with the highest proportion of installed wind energy, is now supplying to its customers at no charge whatsoever all the electricity that they can use between 9 o’clock at night and 6 o’clock in the morning. There is a future out there, if we get the infrastructure in the right place, that will enable us to do things that are both environmentally and practically favourable to energy consumers.

Of course, the electricity is free overnight because that is not when most people want it. That brings us neatly to the whole point of storage. I declare that I am a member of the Institution of Engineering and Technology. It has a monthly magazine that covers up-to-date projects, and the October edition described what is a very exciting project. It involves a lithium-oxygen battery that uses graphene—that is, single atom level graphite carbon—to protect the electrodes from corrosion in the pure oxygen environment that is required in such batteries. A demonstrator is working in the lab, which means that in 10 years’ time, the technology might be available to us as consumers.

Weight for weight and volume for volume, that battery can store the same amount of energy as a tankful of petrol, and it is theoretically already able—in demonstrator mode—to enable us to travel 650km between Edinburgh and London for one fifth of the cost of present technology and one fifth of the weight. In other words, it is a direct and genuine competitor with the petrol and diesel engines that we have in our cars today. We cannot guarantee that it will come out of the lab and end up as a commercial product, but the portents are really quite encouraging.

We have seen enormous changes taking place in the technology of batteries. The point is that, if someone has local generation—a turbine on their roof—and they can charge their car overnight and get a normal tankful of energy, that is pretty good, because the transmission cost is nil, they are in control of what is going on and there are huge environmental benefits.

I contrast that with what the Financial Times reported on Tuesday last week. It told us that the energy supply in the United Kingdom has been so ill managed that the UK Government is having to contract for diesel power stations. We now like diesel a lot less than we did a few months ago, before Volkswagen revealed to us how polluting it is, but the Government is going to spend £436 million to provide excess diesel capacity at precisely the point at which it is shutting down renewables. That disnae make sense.

This has been an excellent debate and I say well done to Mike MacKenzie. I look forward to hearing what the minister has to say.

17:45  

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Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
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Michael Russell (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP
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Mike MacKenzie SNP
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Alex Salmond (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
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Mike MacKenzie SNP
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Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
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Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
You need to close, please.
Joan McAlpine SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
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Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Does the member agree that the kind of pumped storage scheme that I see on the Falls of Clyde and across Scotland is a much better model than the centralised...
Alex Johnstone Con
I might have time later to get on to the subject of diversity of energy sources, which is something that I believe in. The other point that I wanted to make...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Please close.
Alex Johnstone Con
If we fail to be diverse in our energy sources, we run a much greater risk of that power not coming on. 17:28
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
First of all, Presiding Officer, I must apologise to you and Mike MacKenzie for not being able to stay until the end of the debate. I thank Mike MacKenzie f...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I, too, congratulate Mike MacKenzie on securing this important debate and I join him in acknowledging and welcoming the work that Scottish Renewables has don...
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP
I, too, thank Mike MacKenzie for bringing this important debate to us. I also thank him for the history lesson about Tom Johnston. I have a family connection...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
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The Minister for Business, Energy and Tourism (Fergus Ewing) SNP
It has been an excellent debate, and I thank Mike MacKenzie for securing it. I very much welcome the Scottish Renewables paper “Energy Storage: The Basics”...
Sarah Boyack Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Fergus Ewing SNP
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