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Meeting of the Parliament 11 November 2015

11 Nov 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

I, too, am pleased to be participating in this stage 1 debate on the Succession (Scotland) Bill.

I thank the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee’s convener, clerks and members for their assistance with the delivery of a comprehensive report, and I thank the witnesses, whose contributions helped to inform the process from the outset.

As legal practitioners are aware, many of the recommendations that form the foundations of the bill’s provisions date back to the Scottish Law Commission’s report on succession in 1990, which largely remains unimplemented. A subsequent SLC report that was published in 2009 revisited a number of those recommendations and carried them forward. I thank the SLC’s commissioners and legal staff for the considerable work that has gone on towards the implementation of the reforms.

The bill principally seeks to update four key areas of succession law: testamentary documents and special destinations; survivorship; forfeiture; and estate administration. It also includes a number of miscellaneous reforms. The bill is complex, and I reiterate the committee’s suggestion to the minister that its provisions need to be clearly explained in guidance to the public once it has completed its parliamentary passage. I welcome the minister’s comments in that regard.

As the committee agreed in its stage 1 report, it was difficult, given the somewhat disparate nature of the bill, to offer an overarching view of its legislative provisions. Although members agreed to the general principles of the bill, we raised concerns in particular about sections 6, 9 and 10. We are pleased that the Scottish Government has committed to address those at stage 2.

It is nevertheless clear that the legal profession welcomes the progress that the bill makes in the area of succession law, albeit some 25 years after the recommendations were first put forward. The Faculty of Advocates, for example, stated that it

“has held the view, shared widely in the legal profession, that reform of the Scots law of succession is required.”

As such, there was a strong degree of consensus among stakeholders, and the DPLR Committee did not receive any evidence that questioned the need for reform. Perhaps it is a fair assessment to attribute that consensus to the predominantly technical nature of the bill.

In seeking to reform that area of Scots law, the Scottish Government has adopted a two-pronged approach that first aims to put the non-contentious provisions on the statute books. The committee’s understanding is that the Scottish Government will introduce wider-ranging proposals to succession law at a later date. Although the Faculty of Advocates described that approach as “unchartered waters”, there is nevertheless some merit in it. Sensible provisions in draft legislation have too often been overshadowed by contentious proposals, such as in the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill earlier this year. As such, the complex changes that are proposed in the Succession (Scotland) Bill have been subject to sufficient scrutiny and have not been superseded by other, more contentious areas of policy.

Nevertheless, the committee raised the question of there being consolidation once the second succession bill has been passed in order to avoid a cluttered legislative landscape in that area of law—I must say that I rather like that expression. As Professor Crawford, Professor Carruthers and Professor Paisley emphasised in their evidence, it would be a difficult undertaking to consolidate all aspects of succession law. However, the minister has agreed to consider the possibility of consolidating the two new pieces of legislation at a later stage, which is a welcome development.

Broadly speaking, this is a sensible piece of legislation. Although limited in scope, its provisions will have a significant impact on those people affected by this area of Scots law and its technical focus should not diminish its importance. The Scottish Conservatives will therefore support the bill at stage 1.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-14768, in the name of Paul Wheelhouse, on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. 14:40
The Minister for Community Safety and Legal Affairs (Paul Wheelhouse) SNP
I am pleased to open the debate on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. I thank those who submitted evidence, and I thank the convener, members and clerks of the ...
Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak on behalf of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. This is a Scottish Law Commi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Could you draw to a close, please?
Nigel Don SNP
Although the reforms in the bill are technical and comparatively uncontroversial, they represent very important and necessary changes to succession law. More...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
As has been said, this bill was not considered by the Justice Committee, and I was completely unaware of its provisions until last week. I have not read thro...
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
I, too, am pleased to be participating in this stage 1 debate on the Succession (Scotland) Bill. I thank the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee’s con...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now move to the short open debate, with speeches of a maximum of four minutes. 15:05
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
This is an interesting bill, which we have been dealing with in the DPLR Committee. I will address my remarks to the rectification provisions in sections 3 a...
Richard Baker (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Although the bill is technical in nature, I agree with other members’ view that it is important. All of us, inside or outside the chamber, want to be assured...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Will you draw to a close, please?
Richard Baker Lab
The bill should certainly be supported at stage 1 today.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We turn to the closing speeches. 15:13
John Scott Con
I thank members for a good debate this afternoon. It is clear that there is a great deal of consensus in the Parliament and I am pleased that the Scottish La...
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Labour supports the approach that has been taken at stage 1. Wills and inheritance are an important issue and I am grateful to Nigel Don and the DPLR Committ...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
The member talks about keeping up with modern developments. Does he welcome, as I think I do, the abolition of the Parricide Act 1594, because it means that ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I am afraid that you are approaching your last minute, Mr Pearson.
Graeme Pearson Lab
Indeed. I accept Stewart Stevenson’s point. The Parricide Act was enacted in 1594, so it has taken us a while to reconsider the circumstances, but the decisi...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
The spirit of this afternoon’s debate has served to highlight the value that the scrutiny of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee brings to the Scot...
Nigel Don SNP
On that point, I am conscious of the issue of common calamity, when we are not clear in which order people have died, and the risk that the estate will finis...
Paul Wheelhouse SNP
I take the member’s points on board. We are trying to deliver as much certainty as we can in the law of succession. I was going to turn in any case to the p...