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Meeting of the Parliament 29 October 2015

29 Oct 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Tackling the attainment gap in our education system has to be our number 1 priority, so I am pleased that there is recognition across the political divide that we have to do a lot more to end the education inequality that continues to undermine the life chances of thousands of children and young people right across Scotland.

It can never be right that a child’s opportunities in life are shaped more by his or her family background than they are by their talent, their hard work or their efforts. Education should always be a route out of poverty and it should enable every single child to reach their full potential, but the gap between the rich and poor in Scotland often means that instead of potential being unlocked, inequality is reinforced and reproduced. That is why, although Scottish Labour will always hold the Scottish Government to account on its failings, we want to work together to get this right and to ensure that we really do make a difference for all Scotland’s children.

Although Scottish Labour welcomes and supports the general principles of the bill, we feel that, as it stands, it is a missed opportunity and needs a lot of strengthening. The cabinet secretary will be pleased to hear that for once I will not devote my speech to going on about the fantastic achievements in Fife in closing the attainment gap and increasing literacy levels. I know that she is aware of that success and I hope that the Scottish Government will learn from it.

Iain Gray has outlined a number of improvements that Scottish Labour will seek to make to the bill during its progress. One of the most important issues that we believe needs to be addressed is the school week. We will lodge amendments on that at stage 2. Scottish Labour believes that every parent in Scotland should have a guarantee that their primary school child will have a minimum of 25 hours teaching a week. That proposal has the support of the Educational Institute of Scotland and many thousands of parents.

Research by Reform Scotland has revealed that the teaching time that primary school children in Scotland receive can vary by up to 149 hours per year, depending on where they live. In the past few years, parents in Dunfermline and across Fife and in Renfrewshire, Falkirk, the Highlands and West Dunbartonshire have all been told by their local councils that cuts to the school week could be on the horizon.

The sheer scale of the budget challenges that local authorities are dealing with, and the fact that education takes up such a large proportion of council budgets, mean that local authorities are increasingly having to make difficult decisions. For example, last winter parents in Fife were told that one of the options on the table was to reduce the primary school week by 10 per cent. Parents were obviously outraged by that proposal. My inbox was full to the brim with many hundreds of emails from parents who were angry, worried and concerned. They were angry about the potential effect on their children’s learning; worried about the impact, given the challenges that every mum and dad already faces in balancing school, work, home and childcare; and concerned that their kids would suffer not only now but in the future, as richer families would be able to make up the difference by paying tutors to plug the gap, while the poorest children and those with additional support needs would be left to fall further behind.

One parent wrote to me to say:

“By taking away 10% of my child’s primary school education, you will potentially affect him for the rest of his life. He will never regain that lost teaching time and those lost learning experiences.”

Another wrote:

“I have friends in different areas of Scotland who are not facing their children losing 75 ... hours of teaching a year. This works out at 525 lost hours in their 7 years at Primary School. Why should my children lose out?”

In Fife, parents won their fight and Fife Council agreed not to cut school hours for now, but it has warned parents that radical changes will need to be made to address the £75 million budget gap. Given that education accounts for 45 per cent of that overall budget, it will face its share of cuts. Fife is not alone in having to think the unthinkable on school hours.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-14614, in the name of Angela Constance, on the Education (Scotland) Bill. 14:35
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning (Angela Constance) SNP
The Education (Scotland) Bill brings forward a range of measures that are designed to drive improvements across our education system. I very much welcome th...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I heard exactly what the cabinet secretary just said. What persuaded her that the matter should be dealt with through legislative proposals, as opposed to ot...
Angela Constance SNP
The nub of the issue is that I want the responsibility that we all—the Scottish ministers, the Parliament and local authorities—have to give consideration to...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Will the cabinet secretary take an intervention?
Angela Constance SNP
Does the member mind if I make a little bit of progress? Members will know that, as part of the programme for government, we published a draft national impr...
Liam McArthur LD
My point is in relation to the attainment of those who might be disadvantaged not on socioeconomic grounds but on additional support needs grounds. The cabin...
Angela Constance SNP
When we started the attainment fund, we wanted to have a very targeted approach, but we always said that we recognise that there are severe pockets of depriv...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
The presumption is based on whether reasonable demand for Gaelic exists. What is “reasonable demand”?
Angela Constance SNP
That will be set out in the process that we hope to address with statutory guidance. The bill seeks to extend the rights of children by amending the Educa...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am delighted to have the opportunity to speak on behalf of the Education and Culture Committee in this stage 1 debate. In the time available, I will focus ...
Mary Scanlon Con
Does the member agree that in order for a presumption in favour of Gaelic-medium education to operate, we need to understand what “reasonable demand” is?
Stewart Maxwell SNP
That goes without saying but, as the cabinet secretary said clearly in response to the member’s earlier intervention, the detail of that will be outlined in ...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Stewart Maxwell SNP
I will take an intervention if the member is very quick.
John Finnie Ind
Does the member accept that there is a chicken-and-egg situation here? If there is an endorsement of an assumption in favour of Gaelic-medium education, it w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Convener, I can give you back the time for the intervention.
Stewart Maxwell SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I say to Mr Finnie that I absolutely accept that, and the Government’s move in that direction is a welcome step. There is an ar...
Iain Gray (East Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I begin by stating clearly that we welcome the bill as a clear signal that the Government wants to tackle the attainment gap in Scottish education. It is una...
Mary Scanlon (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak on the Education (Scotland) Bill. I put it on record that we have serious concerns about the bill, although we all want to do our bes...
The Minister for Learning, Science and Scotland's Languages (Dr Alasdair Allan) SNP
Will the member give way?
Mary Scanlon Con
I would like to finish this point. The SNP manifesto in 2007 stated that it would “guarantee in law the right to a Gaelic medium education at primary level,...
Dr Allan SNP
I will try not to dance, but I would like to respond to the member’s points. I was quite rightly grilled about that issue in committee when detail was sought...
Mary Scanlon Con
I sincerely hope not, because I think that we should all respect the views of Sabhal Mòr Ostaig on the issue. I have quoted from its paper, and if Sabhal Mòr...
Iain Gray Lab
Will Mary Scanlon give way?
Mary Scanlon Con
I am already over my time. The policy memorandum states that there was discussion with only one group. Finally, I must agree with COSLA’s opinion that the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We come to the open debate. I shall allow speeches of six minutes. At the moment, there is a little bit of time for interventions, but that may change. 15:19
George Adam (Paisley) (SNP) SNP
It is my belief that the Education (Scotland) Bill can lay the foundations for raising attainment in Scotland. That will not happen overnight and it will not...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
Tackling the attainment gap in our education system has to be our number 1 priority, so I am pleased that there is recognition across the political divide th...
Angela Constance SNP
Perhaps Cara Hilton cannot answer this question now; it may be unfair of me to ask it in advance of her lodging stage 2 amendments. She said that she wants t...