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Meeting of the Parliament 02 April 2015

02 Apr 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Prisoners (Control of Release) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

In historical terms, parole is quite recent, and the Parole Board for Scotland was set up only in 1968. Parole was subject to an important review by Lord Kincraig in 1989, in which he stated:

“the proper objective of parole is to ensure that the release of all long-term prisoners takes place under such conditions and at such a time (within the overall sentence of the court) that the risk to the public may be minimised; and that decisions on the conditions and timing of release take into account, amongst other things, any changes in the offender or his circumstances and any increased knowledge of the offender since the passing of the original sentence.”

That was the position then. In my view, it remains true today.

Of course, the Conservative Government of the day put in legislation the changes that were proposed by Lord Kincraig. It is interesting to read Ian Lang’s comments from the time on what became known as the Prisoners and Criminal Proceedings (Scotland) Act 1993. He argued in support of the then new early-release provisions and in opposition to those who argued that the sentence of the court should be precisely that. Times have moved on. The modern Conservative Party appears to take a different view, although I must say that I find it rather difficult to accept that a party that is opposed to, and which believes in ending, automatic prisoner release across the board can dissent from the bill’s general principles.

On the Justice Committee’s report, it is fair to say that in the course of our evidence sessions there was disquiet that sex offenders serving four years or more, rather than all offenders serving four years or more, were highlighted in the bill. It is certainly more appropriate to concentrate on the length of sentence than on the type of offender. Therefore, I warmly welcome the proposed stage 2 amendments in that regard.

We also need to bear it in mind that the bill is in addition to existing powers that are available to the courts in relation to extended sentences in which, at the time of sentencing, offenders are thought to be likely to pose a continuing risk. Even under the likely stage 2 amendments, what we are talking about will apply only to a small cohort of prisoners—about 3 per cent of offenders receive a determinate sentence in any one year.

The full impact of the bill will be measured over several years. As has been pointed out on numerous occasions since the McLeish commission reported, until overall prison numbers are significantly reduced it will not be possible to extend provisions more widely in relation to the ending of automatic early release. However, it is a start, especially when—as the cabinet secretary has said—we know that someone who is released automatically at present is about seven times more likely to breach their licence conditions than someone who is released after a Parole Board decision.

As the cabinet secretary said in evidence, in 2012-13

“The rate at which non-parole-released prisoners breached their licence conditions was 37 per cent, compared with 5.5 per cent for parole-released prisoners.”—[Official Report, Justice Committee, 3 March 2015, c 35.]

I hope that that will enable proper focus on rehabilitative programmes, which go hand in hand with the ending of automatic early release. As the policy memorandum makes clear, the absence of automatic early release may encourage greater interest in participation in the programmes. How great an incentive it will be remains to be seen, but I am encouraged that Professor Alan Miller of the Scottish Human Rights Commission accepted that it will provide an incentive to participate.

The important thing must surely be to ensure that we have the resources available for rehabilitation. As Colin McConnell of the Scottish Prison Service said in evidence, we need to

“prioritise and sensitise the opportunities that best match the needs of the individual”,

while recognising that

“we do not always match their wants.”—[Official Report, Justice Committee, 20 January 2015; c 20.]

As the Government points out in its response, however, the Scottish Prison Service is shortly to put in hand a review of SPS programmes that is to be conducted by an external expert. Clearly, that should be a priority. Protection of the public must remain paramount. We heard in evidence concerns about what was described as “cold release”, and the Government has been wise to respond to those concerns.

In its written submission, Sacro suggested a period of compulsory supervision of three months before the end of a sentence. Colin McConnell said that, in his experience, the first six to 12 weeks after release can be extremely risky. The Government has indicated that it is minded to provide for a mandatory control period of six months as a minimum, in order to provide sufficient time to balance any necessary protective conditions with work by criminal justice social work departments in assisting the prisoner with their reintegration and rehabilitation in the community. I believe that that is a considered response to the concerns that we heard in evidence, and I warmly welcome it.

We also heard evidence about the need for clarity in sentencing, which was a particular concern of Victim Support Scotland. It is clear from the bill, however, that that is not the purpose of the legislation. Nonetheless, we should wish the new Scottish sentencing council well in its task, particularly in promoting greater awareness and understanding of sentencing policy and practice.

On section 2, which relates to the date of release, I simply echo what has already been said. Like the committee in general, I fully support the provision.

The bill will change significantly at stage 2. In my view, the Government has seized the initiative and has signalled its intentions in that respect already, which is to be welcomed. We ought to consider taking further evidence at stage 2, but I do not share the views of those who think that we should abandon the bill and that the matter is best left to others such as the new sentencing council. I believe that we need to continue to respond to public concerns and not to delay further a significant change in response to those concerns.

15:22  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
Good afternoon. The first item of business is a debate on motion S4M-12878, in the name of Michael Matheson, on the Prisoners (Control of Release) (Scotland)...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
I begin by apologising for my late arrival, which was entirely my fault and responsibility. I welcome the opportunity to speak in this debate at stage 1 of ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Christine Grahame to speak on behalf of the Justice Committee. 14:46
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate and, as you say, I speak as the convener of the Justice Committee. I will spea...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
I thank the clerks and the witnesses for their efforts in bringing a lot of issues to the committee’s attention during the stage 1 process. The Scottish Nat...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
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Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will Margaret Mitchell take an intervention?
Margaret Mitchell Con
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Nigel Don (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) SNP
I speak on the bill in my capacity as convener of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee. Although the bill contains only one delegated power, the com...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Is it the committee’s view that that is not simply a matter in relation to this bill, but a principle that it wants to apply in similar circumstances in simi...
Nigel Don SNP
Stewart Stevenson’s point is absolutely fair. As a member of the DPLR Committee, he will accept that that is our concern. We have tried to bring principled a...
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
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Jayne Baxter (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
There is little doubt that the criminal justice system in Scotland is in desperate need of reform. The aspect of that system that the bill seeks to address—s...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
First, I would like to thank all the Justice Committee members and the organisations and individuals who came to give evidence. It was a long session and our...
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab) Lab
I am sorry to interrupt the member, but my reading of what the Law Society said to members was not that the 2007 act was inadequate but that, if the bill was...
Christian Allard SNP
What I said was my interpretation of what the Law Society said. As I was saying, it all comes down to implementation. If the Government has a problem with im...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I apologise to members in advance, as I have a sore throat. If automatic early release for long-term prisoners is to be abolished, the alternative must pass...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to take part in the debate as a member of the Justice Committee. The ending of automatic early release for prisoners is seen by a large cross-...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I very much welcome the opportunity to speak on this important subject. We all know that control over the release of prisoners is a subject that has needed t...
Christina McKelvie (Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse) (SNP) SNP
I am not, and never have been, a member of the Justice Committee, but looking back over the eight years that I have spent in the Parliament and the debates o...
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab) Lab
As an MSP who is not a member of the Justice Committee and is therefore not as familiar with the systems and processes that are involved in our application o...
Christine Grahame SNP
Does the member accept that the Justice Committee will have the opportunity to take evidence on what might be substantial amendments at stage 2 if it wishes ...
Patricia Ferguson Lab
I absolutely accept that, but it is still quite a strange way to legislate. The committee and Parliament should really have had those materials at stage 1 if...
Clare Adamson (Central Scotland) (SNP) SNP
The decisions that we make as the bill goes through Parliament will affect our prison communities. A prison community is much more than the prisoners; the st...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
I, too, thank the many people who gave the evidence that formed the basis of the Justice Committee’s report. I will quote straight away from one of them, Pro...
Annabel Goldie (West Scotland) (Con) Con
The debate has revealed a conundrum. People either support or oppose automatic early release. Those who support it want it; those who oppose it do not want i...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member give way?
Annabel Goldie Con
Let me just expand my argument. As a political principle, my party’s credentials could not be clearer on the issue. In 2007, it was heartening to find that ...
Stewart Stevenson SNP
Will the member take an intervention?