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Meeting of the Parliament 23 June 2015

23 Jun 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Prisoners (Control of Release) (Scotland) Bill

I am pleased to speak in this afternoon’s debate. However, I am disappointed because introducing the legislation in this way is a missed opportunity.

Rod Campbell says that the bill is a positive response from the Government to the issue of early release. He added that that was for “this group of prisoners”, but indeed that is a small and exclusive group.

Let us remember how we arrived at the position that we are in today. In 2013, Kenny MacAskill proposed the bill and said:

“We have stated clearly our aim to end the system of automatic early release ... we are committed to fulfilling that pledge”.

In 2014, he added:

“This Government is taking tough action to keep communities safe and reduce the likelihood of prisoners reoffending.”

I am sorry to say that I do not see the amended bill reflecting those commitments.

Professor Cyrus Tata, in evidence to the committee, observed that reconviction rates for those serving sentences of between three and six months is 53 per cent, yet, having served only half of their sentences, those prisoners will not be the subject of supervision by criminal justice social work.

We should not be talking about early release; rather, as Professor Fergus McNeill indicated, it would be much better were we to identify a timely release period. I reiterate that the bill does not deliver on the notion of a timely release with appropriate supervision thereafter.

As Dr Monica Barry reflected, the current legislation is very much about the offence and the length of sentence, rather than about the risk and the perceived threat and what is being delivered in terms of community safety. There is a shortcoming in what the bill delivers in that respect. Indeed, from the viewpoint of the public—from the viewpoint of victims and witnesses—the bill does not provide clarity on sentencing so that they can be confident that they know precisely what will happen to an accused once that person leaves the court upon conviction. The bill does not deliver what, in my view, Victim Support Scotland suggested in saying that it is an important advance that will go a long way to improving public perception of justice.

The speeches in today’s debate from the cabinet secretary and other members indicate how confusing the issue is. Indeed, Professors Tata and McNeill, along with Dr Barry, suggested that the bill should be scrapped and that we should go back to the start of the process. I have sympathy with that view.

The public cannot stand front-door sentencing and back-door releases. They are extremely frustrated by that prospect.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-13597, in the name of Michael Matheson, on the Prisoners (Control of Release) (Scotland) Bill. 15:22
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to open the stage 3 debate on the Prisoners (Control of Release) (Scotland) Bill. First, I offer my thanks to the Justice Committee...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Dr Elaine Murray. You have seven minutes. As we are now quite tight for time, please make it a pretty exact seven minutes. 15:32
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
The term “ending automatic early release” has been used so often over the years that its meaning has not been questioned. That was the case until the Justice...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Elaine Murray Lab
No, sorry. I do not really have much time. In the ministerial statement prior to this debate, Fergus Ewing reminded us that irrational decisions can result ...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
Will the member give way?
Elaine Murray Lab
I am sorry, but I do not have much time. The Government has not been able to provide evidence that a six-month supervisory sentence for all long-term prison...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I pay tribute to the Justice Committee clerks for their hard work and to the witnesses who provided such vital and insightful evidence at stage 1 and stage 2...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member give way?
Margaret Mitchell Con
If Mr Allard does not mind, I will make progress. We are now in a situation in which the legitimate concerns and criticisms of stakeholders, which range fro...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Margaret Mitchell Con
No. If the member does not mind, I have some progress to make. That in turn has proportionality implications that may lead to potential human rights challen...
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
We must acknowledge that the bill has moved since stage 1 and that it operates in the context of the 2007 and 2010 legislation in the area, as yet to be impl...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
I have a little bit of time in hand at this stage. 15:48
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to speak in this afternoon’s debate. However, I am disappointed because introducing the legislation in this way is a missed opportunity. Rod Ca...
Christian Allard SNP
It is important to understand what the academics told the committee. They said that cold release is the problem. A vast amount of cold release is happening. ...
Graeme Pearson Lab
I am grateful for that intervention. I accept that the days of cold release should be history. Unfortunately, they will not be. Over the past few months, I h...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
It is important to remember that automatic early release is a management device. It was introduced as a safety valve to ease the pressure caused by escalatin...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
The policy memorandum talks about helping to reduce offending and improve public safety, and it is important that we have an evidence base for that. People h...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Much has already been said about this short bill, so I will try not to repeat too much. I think that we all agree that ending automatic early release is, in ...
Jayne Baxter (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
The core principle behind the bill is recognised across the chamber: automatic early release of prisoners does not engender confidence in our criminal justic...
John Finnie Ind
Will Jayne Baxter give way?
Jayne Baxter Lab
No. We must ensure that each offender’s risk profile is central to the debate about whether they are released early. For those who have committed serious of...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We come to the closing speeches. I call Margaret Mitchell. 16:10
Margaret Mitchell Con
Oh, it is me. I thought I heard “followed by”. If the decision to pass the bill is taken at 4.30 pm, the Parliament will be able to take absolutely no pride...
Hugh Henry (Renfrewshire South) (Lab) Lab
I cannot find any fault in the idea that we should end automatic early release. Victims, and indeed the general public, deserve some clarity from our legal s...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member give way?
Hugh Henry Lab
No, thank you. Roderick Campbell criticised Elaine Murray, saying that there was no evidence for her amendment. That was echoed by Christine Grahame, who sa...
Michael Matheson SNP
I have listened with interest to the issues and points raised, although some of them were echoes of concerns that were raised at stage 1 of the bill. I said ...