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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 16 June 2015

16 Jun 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Harbours (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

I would like to start by outlining the theory behind the Harbours (Scotland) Bill, which is a concise and necessary piece of legislation.

The main purpose of the bill is to remove from the Scottish ministers the power to require trust ports to bring forward proposals for privatisation. For clarity, a trust port is a port that has no shareholders or owners and at which any surplus revenue is invested back in the port. Without the bill, the reclassification by the Office for National Statistics of trust ports with a minimum annual turnover of £9 million as public corporations would have resulted in some trust ports being forced into privatisation against their best interests and against the desire of their stakeholders. At the time of the bill’s scrutiny by the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee, Lerwick Port Authority and Peterhead Port Authority had trust ports that met the £9 million criterion, which meant that they would have been required to bring forward proposals for their privatisation as a result of ONS reclassification, despite the fact that neither had expressed a desire to be privatised.

The bill is a necessary piece of legislation that will stop forced privatisation of a port simply because it has an annual turnover of £9 million or more. Private is not always best, and it would be ridiculous if a port that had no desire to be privatised were to be forced into becoming so against its best interests and against the desire of its stakeholders.

Scottish ports are fundamental to the economy. That is highlighted by the fact that in 2006 ports in Scotland handled 102 million tonnes of freight, which represented 17 per cent of the UK’s total freight for the year. That is equivalent to 21 tonnes of freight per person in Scotland—almost three times the figure for England. In 2006, it was revealed that port and harbour-related activity including cargo handling and storage, warehousing, and ship repair and construction directly affected 18,000 jobs in Scotland.

I emphasise that ports in Scotland are of particular importance because they play a unique role in connecting communities and handle more than 10 million passenger movements each year. The trust port at Lerwick is a model example that illuminates the successes and benefits of the current system of trust ports in Scotland. Lerwick’s modern ferry terminal has made an important contribution to the doubling of annual passenger numbers to around 133,000. The ferry provides overnight services to and from Aberdeen on the Scottish mainland, and it also calls at Kirkwall in Orkney.

Finally, I reiterate that it is necessary to pass the Harbours (Scotland) Bill and to make it law in order to ensure that thriving trust ports are not forced, because of the ONS’s reclassifying decision, into a process of privatisation against their best interests and the desire of their stakeholders. I welcome the apparent consensus across the chamber on this important bill.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-13511, in the name of Derek Mackay, on stage 1 of the Harbours (Scotland) Bill. I will give everyone a fe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
If you are all sitting comfortably, we will begin. 14:51
The Minister for Transport and Islands (Derek Mackay) SNP
I am pleased to open the debate on the Harbours (Scotland) Bill. I thank those who submitted evidence, and the convener and members of the Infrastructure and...
Jim Eadie (Edinburgh Southern) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak on behalf of the Infrastructure and Capital Investment Committee, which was the lead committee in the scrutiny of ...
Jim Eadie SNP
Moving on to the key issues, the committee welcomes the aims of the bill, which the Scottish Government states are “to provide an improved legislative frame...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I confirm that Scottish Labour will support the Government throughout the passage of the Harbours (Scotland) Bill, and I am happy to work with the minister i...
Alex Johnstone (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
It gives me great pleasure to stand up time and again in the chamber to accuse the Government of being the most centralising and authoritarian Government tha...
Chic Brodie (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to support the bill’s principles. Harbours and ports are indeed the pores through which part of Scotland’s economy breathes. More i...
Alex Johnstone Con
My memory of history is that Margaret Thatcher was long gone by 1991.
Chic Brodie SNP
I think that if the member looks, Margaret Thatcher is still with us today—but he is absolutely right. The compulsory privatisation powers under the 1991 ac...
Margaret McDougall (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I would like to start by outlining the theory behind the Harbours (Scotland) Bill, which is a concise and necessary piece of legislation. The main purpose o...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We come to closing speeches. I call Alex Johnstone to wind up on behalf of the Conservatives. You have four minutes or thereby, Mr Johnstone. 15:25
Alex Johnstone Con
I assure you, Deputy Presiding Officer, that this will be a short speech, because there is not much left to say on the bill. It has been an interesting deba...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Is Alex Johnstone aware that the same problem occurs in other sectors that are the Scottish Government’s responsibility, including the college sector? Many c...
Alex Johnstone Con
There are some areas of the Government’s responsibility in which, I am sure, that is an advantage rather than a disadvantage, but in this case it is very imp...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call David Stewart. You have six minutes or thereby, Mr Stewart. 15:28
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
You are very kind, Presiding Officer. Thank you for your generous allocation of time. This has been a short, sharp debate on what is, as we have all heard, ...
Alex Johnstone Con
Does David Stewart care to remember the opportunity that he had to take the wheel of the pilot boat and run up and down the various docks in Aberdeen—at grea...
David Stewart Lab
I am glad that Alex Johnstone raised that point: I am sure that I broke several local byelaws. He will know that I was piloting the boat to look for floating...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
Mr Stewart—I can give you the time back for the intervention that you took.
David Stewart Lab
Thank you. Laughter. You are very kind, Presiding Officer. I really appreciate that extra time. I have visited several trust ports including those in Aberde...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Derek Mackay to wind up the debate. Minister—you have eight minutes or so. 15:34
Derek Mackay SNP
Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. Your generosity knows no bounds. I thought that it was particularly gracious to give David Stewart time back for the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
There is also time for interventions if you wish, minister.
Derek Mackay SNP
Thank you very much for that guidance, Presiding Officer. We have been able to showcase how Parliament can work together using the functions in its committe...
David Stewart Lab
Will the minister give way?
Derek Mackay SNP
I certainly will.
David Stewart Lab
How confident is the minister that the ONS will change its classification once the bill becomes law?
Derek Mackay SNP
Having considered the advice that we have been given on the reason for potential classification, I am fairly confident that our clarification through the bil...
Alex Johnstone Con
I must intervene because I have always been the first in the chamber to make it clear that the concept of public service is not unique to the public sector; ...