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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 25 June 2015

25 Jun 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill

The bill is an important one that deals with metal theft, air weapon licensing, alcohol licensing and, of course, sexual entertainment venues. I will limit my comments to the part of the bill that deals with sexual entertainment venues.

I am grateful to the many members who have mentioned that I have been pursuing the licensing of sexual entertainment venues for more years than I care to remember. I thank the Local Government and Regeneration Committee for all the work that it did on this part of the bill. I also thank the clerks—I see that they are in the chamber—for the advice that they have given me and their help in lodging various amendments. I also thank the Scottish Government and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice for introducing the bill. Special thanks must go to the previous justice secretary, Kenny MacAskill, who worked with me when I brought my member’s bill to the chamber a number of years ago—unfortunately, the Opposition parties voted it down, but we did not give in; we brought it back again. I thank everyone who has helped with the current bill, but if it were not for the previous justice secretary, Kenny MacAskill, I do not know whether it would have got this far.

A number of members have talked about the granting of sexual entertainment licences for lap-dancing clubs. I represent Glasgow city centre, and such clubs are a part of that. In fact, many people have come to me about the proliferation of lap-dancing clubs in Glasgow city centre. It has been decided that local authorities will be responsible for their licensing, and that is absolutely right—there cannot be mandatory licensing; it must be for local authorities to represent the people in their areas. I thank Councillor Coleman, of Glasgow City Council, who gave me enormous amounts of advice and support while I was pushing through this part of the bill. It is fantastic that, as a result of all the work of everyone concerned, from 10 past 5 tonight, if a local authority wishes no lap-dancing and sexual entertainment licences to be granted in its area, none will be granted. I call that empowering local people—not just local authorities but local communities—who wish not to have this type of entertainment in their areas.

As others have said—I have long said it myself—sexual entertainment is a form of violence against women. I have already mentioned some of the examples that I have encountered of people being in such establishments. The bill is therefore a really good piece of legislation to come out of the Scottish Parliament. Lots of people on community councils and not just women’s groups but groups throughout Scotland very much welcome the bill. The idea that women can be objectified through lap dancing and people paying for that type of thing will be long gone when the legislation is implemented. Others besides me have worked on it for many years, and I thank everyone who has helped me to bring it forward. I look forward to 10 past 5 tonight, when we will finally be able to say yes to this legislation.

16:43  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-13606, in the name of Michael Matheson, on the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill. 16:03
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
I am pleased to open the stage 3 debate on the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill. For the purposes of rule 9.11 of standing orders, I advise the Parl...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I appreciate the cabinet secretary verifying that the principal purpose is to reduce crime involving air weapons, but can he tell me what evidential back-up ...
Michael Matheson SNP
The member is correct to say that gun crime is at an almost record low. However, within the category of gun crime, almost half of all the offences involve ai...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Before I call Cara Hilton, I inform members that, to allow everyone to speak in the debate, I have determined that decision time will take place at 10 past f...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
I echo the cabinet secretary’s comments and thank all who were involved in devoting time and energy to supporting us in our scrutiny of the Air Weapons and L...
Michael Matheson SNP
Does Cara Hilton understand the point that I made about her amendment and the Government’s amendment in relation to under-18s having access to sexual enterta...
Cara Hilton Lab
That is one interpretation, but I am not convinced by those arguments. I lodged the same amendment at stage 2 and I did not hear those arguments then; this i...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Oh.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Order.
Cara Hilton Lab
I have lost my place now. I am pleased that the Scottish Government introduced positive amendments that will improve notification procedures and require lo...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
In opening the debate for the Scottish Conservatives, I am sorry to say that I find myself every bit as perplexed about the bill now as I was at stage 1. The...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
In April, we debated and agreed the general principles of the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill, and today we debate the bill in the form in which we...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
The intention of people who support the bill has never been to ban air weapons; it has been to regulate them. Air weapons can and, sadly, do kill. It is wron...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I join others in thanking Kevin Stewart’s committee and committee witnesses for their work on what is, by common consent, a wide-ranging and complex bill. Ca...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
The bill is an important one that deals with metal theft, air weapon licensing, alcohol licensing and, of course, sexual entertainment venues. I will limit m...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I welcome many of the changes that the bill will bring about, although I think that there will, in due course, need to be a more fundamental revision of the ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Malcolm Chisholm give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
The member is in his last minute.
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
If Cara Hilton’s amendment had dealt with a new issue, we would not be able to complain. However, it dealt with an issue on which she had lodged an amendment...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (SNP) Ind
I want to take this opportunity to welcome the discussion and debate on what are clearly important issues for Scotland. The health and security of everyone i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We will now have closing speeches. 16:51
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con
The Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill has drawn out areas of both consensus and contention, as today’s debate has shown. As I have commented before, ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way?
Cameron Buchanan Con
Certainly.
Kevin Stewart SNP
I thank Mr Buchanan for giving way. We recognise that there is a small minority of abusers of air weapons. However, the use of those weapons by abusers has l...
Cameron Buchanan Con
What evidence do we have that a licensing regime will prevent deaths? I cannot see it. I do not think it will make any difference; I think that those people ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Mr Buchanan, carry on.
Cameron Buchanan Con
The misuse of air weapons is confined to a tiny minority of users, as recently published statistics on recorded crimes in Scotland involving firearms for 201...
Colin Keir (Edinburgh Western) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?