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Meeting of the Parliament 15 January 2015

15 Jan 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Emergency Services
McInnes, Alison LD North East Scotland Watch on SPTV

I gladly join members across the chamber in commending all those who work in many different ways to keep us safe.

My Liberal Democrat colleagues and I are incredibly grateful for the work that the emergency services do for all our constituents around Scotland. Police officers, ambulance crews, firefighters, doctors, nurses and many more routinely put the needs of the public before their own. Each time that they start a shift, they are prepared to deal with unexpected, distressing and traumatic situations; incidents that the rest of us might never encounter at all—we certainly hope that we do not.

Others have already spoken about the tragic event that occurred in central Glasgow before Christmas, and I note that the family of Jack and Lorraine Sweeney and their granddaughter Erin McQuade yesterday publicly thanked those who attended to their loved ones and who have provided assistance in the weeks since, including those from the emergency services. By all accounts, the multi-agency response to this awful incident was exemplary.

Responding to such events can be physically and emotionally draining. The appalling events in Paris last week also remind us that some sadly lose their lives in the course of their work—such selfless bravery.

Countless volunteers are immensely important in keeping our communities safe and protecting our health. They can be found assisting people in every part of Scotland, from the high street to the highest mountain peaks and the roughest seas. Volunteers are the backbone of our lifeboat crews and mountain rescue teams. Police special constables bring a wealth of local knowledge. As Mike MacKenzie pointed out, many parts of Scotland, including my North East Scotland region, depend heavily on retained and volunteer firefighters, who make up 40 per cent of Scotland’s firefighters and provide cover for 90 per cent of the country’s landmass, much of it rural or remote.

Volunteers gain new skills and they are rewarded with unique experiences and the satisfaction of being able to help others. Ultimately, however, they selflessly give their time and expertise for little or no recompense, and they combine rigorous training requirements and varied deployments with work and family life. We owe them a debt of gratitude for that.

In the spirit of Jackson Carlaw’s more expansive amendment, I take a moment to thank the engineers who have been working to reinstate connections in the past week, often amid atrocious conditions, removing trees from train tracks and restoring light and warmth to our homes. They, too, provide services that are vital, particularly to the most vulnerable in our society. I also commend those who drive our gritters and snow ploughs, who are up and out in conditions that most of us fear to drive in to make the roads safer for the rest of us.

As Hugh Henry’s amendment suggests, members’ praise and warm words are not enough; it is our responsibility to ensure that our services have the resources that they need. We know that services are under intense pressure. As individual MSPs and in our committee work, we regularly receive evidence to that effect from professionals on the front line, from independent observers, from unions and from scrutiny bodies. For example, the chief officer of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service told the Justice Committee last year of “long-standing” problems with the system of retained firefighters. The Scottish secretary of the Fire Brigades Union said that it was “on its knees”. Her Majesty’s chief inspector of constabulary reported to the committee in October that the morale of police officers and staff has been affected by the pace and nature of the change to Police Scotland. He said that many are unsure as to their role or future within the organisation.

Today, we learned that the number of police officers taking stress-related sick leave has risen by more than a quarter since the establishment of the national force, and we know that accident and emergency departments are currently struggling to cope with exceptionally high levels of demand. The director of the Royal College of Nursing Scotland, Theresa Fyffe, remarked:

“The whole system is creaking at the seams and the last few weeks have seen a perfect storm of conditions that demonstrate just how perilous the state of the NHS is.”

Do we need an inquiry? I agree with Christine Grahame that it is up to the parliamentary committees to answer that question. I do know, however, that the real challenge for the Scottish Government and for members of the Parliament is to listen and respond constructively to those professionals and experts when they tell us the truth; to be open and fair to them; and to be willing to shift resources and priorities accordingly. At times, the Parliament will disagree on how best to achieve that, but no one should ever suggest that properly scrutinising justice, health or any other policy area is indicative of a lack of respect or support for the personnel on the front line. Indeed, it demonstrates quite the opposite, and anything less would be doing them a disservice.

Services work around the clock to keep us safe in all circumstances and all weather. In return, they deserve our heartfelt thanks but also require our assistance and support.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Tricia Marwick) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-12060, in the name of Michael Matheson, on commending the people who keep Scotland safe in emergencies. ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to recognise the excellent work that is undertaken by the emergency services across Scotland. Our emergency services are i...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
I am sure that the cabinet secretary is aware of the traumatic and tragic incident at Clydebank police station last week. Does he agree that people in the em...
Michael Matheson SNP
I am aware of the terrible incident at Clydebank police station last week. Of course, the emergency services responded in an exemplary way to deal with that ...
Hugh Henry (Renfrewshire South) (Lab) Lab
There are some things in life that we have come to take for granted. Thanks to the struggles of previous generations, we take for granted the right to an edu...
Jackson Carlaw (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I endorse everything that the cabinet secretary—and Mr Henry—said on the scope, scale and range of services in which we have such confidence and pride. The e...
Mike MacKenzie (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak in the debate and I will focus on voluntary emergency services. That is partly because, for many years, I was a volunteer firefighter, ...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
At the time when this debate was scheduled, none of us could have foreseen the dreadful events that were to unfold in Paris at the end of last week. They dem...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
I call Christine Grahame. Speeches can be six minutes or thereby—we have a little time in hand. 15:16
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
In this relatively consensual debate, I regret that I must take Hugh Henry to task for the Labour amendment, which asks the Parliament to agree “that the Ju...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I gladly join members across the chamber in commending all those who work in many different ways to keep us safe. My Liberal Democrat colleagues and I are i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I alert members to the fact that there is a little time in hand for interventions—even anecdotes. 15:27
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
Although I do not represent Glasgow, like most people in Scotland I cannot fail to note how that city, its people and its emergency services have responded t...
Hanzala Malik (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I want to thank not only the blue-light services but all uniformed services for their contribution in providing emergency support and a 24/7 service across t...
Colin Beattie (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to have the opportunity to comment on and to commend the people who keep Scotland safe in emergencies. We have had many recent examples of catas...
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
There are very obvious recipients of the praise in the motion, and we have already heard them being referenced across the chamber. I echo much of what has be...
Patricia Ferguson (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (Lab) Lab
It is probably true to say that no one expects to need the emergency services—we all imagine that it is only others who will need them—but that we feel safer...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Rob Gibson, to be followed by Stewart Maxwell. You may have a generous six minutes, Mr Gibson. 15:59
Rob Gibson (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
Although I join colleagues in praising the work of the emergency services, I want to take a slightly different view, particularly on the way in which we cope...
Mike MacKenzie SNP
The Presiding Officer said that there was some time in hand so I thought that I would describe a situation that illustrates Mr Gibson’s point. During the fes...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
Thank you. I am not sure how Mr Gibson feels about another speech within his speech. We do have some time in hand and I can reimburse him.
Rob Gibson SNP
Thank you very much. It was an interesting illustration of the fact that people in urban areas do not really understand what it is like to live in far-flung ...
Stewart Maxwell (West Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I very much welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate and to acknowledge the emergency services staff who work tirelessly on our behalf. I know that we ...
Paul Martin (Glasgow Provan) (Lab) Lab
As we come to the final stages of the debate, there can be no doubt that members are unified around working together to support our emergency services—not on...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Our final speaker in the open debate, before we come to the closing speeches, is Willie Coffey. 16:22
Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) SNP
This debate has been a good opportunity for members to pay tribute to Scotland’s emergency services personnel and to put on the record our thanks as parliame...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
That brings us to closing speeches. I remind members that if they have participated in the debate they should be back in the chamber for closing speeches. 1...
Jamie McGrigor (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am pleased to close today’s debate, which has been useful and largely consensual, as befits the subject. As Jackson Carlaw said, the Scottish Conservatives...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Before we move on, I note that a couple of members were missing at the start of the closing speeches. The chamber has received the courtesy of an explanation...
Dr Richard Simpson (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to be summing up for Labour and supporting Labour’s amendment, following what has been, for the most part, a consensual debate that has allowed ...