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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament 25 June 2015

25 Jun 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill

I have lost my place now.

I am pleased that the Scottish Government introduced positive amendments that will improve notification procedures and require local authorities to fully consider the impact of licensing sexual entertainment venues on the local authority’s wider objectives, such as reducing violence against women and protecting children and young people. I hope that that will give local communities a bigger say in whether such venues can operate in their areas.

The cabinet secretary’s amendments in those areas reflect what I hoped to achieve in the amendments that I lodged at stage 2. That is welcome progress. I hope that we can develop more joined-up policy making at local and national levels in building towards the type of Scotland that we all want to see.

The sex industry can never be allowed to operate in a vacuum. Our approach needs to reflect the goals in “Equally Safe” of a Scotland where all individuals are equally safe and respected and where our town and city centres are welcoming to all. Until now, the industry has in effect been unregulated so, although the bill is far from ideal, the new licensing regime that it proposes is certainly better than the current situation.

Regardless of the debates about the legality of the new regime, we have to be vigilant in monitoring that regime. In licensing such venues, the Scottish Government risks normalising a harmful form of sexual exploitation. As the Zero Tolerance Trust pointed out in its initial briefing to the Local Government and Regeneration Committee,

“if we are to move beyond women’s value and worth being located in their bodies and their perceived sexual attractiveness, we need to move beyond seeing sexual entertainment venues as normal and harmless.”

We need to challenge a culture where women and girls are viewed and treated as sexualised objects. To fail to send out a clear message on that is to fail our young people.

There is no doubt that the taxi and private hire car industry is changing rapidly, and it is vital that the legislation reflects the pace of change. During the committee’s evidence sessions, there was concern about whether the bill will be robust enough and future proofed enough to prevent taxi app companies from bypassing local regimes. I hope that it will be, but only time will tell.

I know that the Scottish Taxi Federation was pleased with the assurances that it received from the cabinet secretary. We all agree that it is vital that there is a level playing field and a fairer deal for all in the sector.

Scottish Labour fully supports the air weapons proposals in the bill. It is estimated that 500,000 airguns are owned by people throughout Scotland. The bill will—rightly—require anyone who owns an airgun to demonstrate a legitimate reason for having such a weapon.

There is no doubt in my mind that air weapons are dangerous. The tragic death of two-year-old Andrew Morton 10 years ago and the heartache that his family continue to endure every day highlight the real and pressing need for us to act to prevent future tragedies.

Half of all firearms offences involve the use of an air weapon, and every single day our police officers and animal welfare groups have to deal with the consequences of those weapons being misused. The proposals in the bill are welcome and will ensure that Scotland has a strong and robust air weapons licensing regime.

The bill’s proposals on metal dealers and metal theft are welcome and will bring Scotland into line with the rest of the UK. Metal theft is a big issue in many of our communities, and it is never a victimless crime. We hope that the bill will strengthen the licensing of metal dealing and reduce metal theft and related criminal activity, which not only inconvenience the public but endanger the public and offenders, too.

I notice that I have run out of time. In conclusion, although the bill is not without its flaws, many of the proposals that it contains are welcome, and it is certainly a step in the right direction. Scottish Labour will support the bill, and I look forward to the rest of the debate.

16:21  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-13606, in the name of Michael Matheson, on the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill. 16:03
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
I am pleased to open the stage 3 debate on the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill. For the purposes of rule 9.11 of standing orders, I advise the Parl...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I appreciate the cabinet secretary verifying that the principal purpose is to reduce crime involving air weapons, but can he tell me what evidential back-up ...
Michael Matheson SNP
The member is correct to say that gun crime is at an almost record low. However, within the category of gun crime, almost half of all the offences involve ai...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Before I call Cara Hilton, I inform members that, to allow everyone to speak in the debate, I have determined that decision time will take place at 10 past f...
Cara Hilton (Dunfermline) (Lab) Lab
I echo the cabinet secretary’s comments and thank all who were involved in devoting time and energy to supporting us in our scrutiny of the Air Weapons and L...
Michael Matheson SNP
Does Cara Hilton understand the point that I made about her amendment and the Government’s amendment in relation to under-18s having access to sexual enterta...
Cara Hilton Lab
That is one interpretation, but I am not convinced by those arguments. I lodged the same amendment at stage 2 and I did not hear those arguments then; this i...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
Oh.
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Order.
Cara Hilton Lab
I have lost my place now. I am pleased that the Scottish Government introduced positive amendments that will improve notification procedures and require lo...
Alex Fergusson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
In opening the debate for the Scottish Conservatives, I am sorry to say that I find myself every bit as perplexed about the bill now as I was at stage 1. The...
Kevin Stewart (Aberdeen Central) (SNP) SNP
In April, we debated and agreed the general principles of the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill, and today we debate the bill in the form in which we...
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
The intention of people who support the bill has never been to ban air weapons; it has been to regulate them. Air weapons can and, sadly, do kill. It is wron...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I join others in thanking Kevin Stewart’s committee and committee witnesses for their work on what is, by common consent, a wide-ranging and complex bill. Ca...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
The bill is an important one that deals with metal theft, air weapon licensing, alcohol licensing and, of course, sexual entertainment venues. I will limit m...
Malcolm Chisholm (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (Lab) Lab
I welcome many of the changes that the bill will bring about, although I think that there will, in due course, need to be a more fundamental revision of the ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will Malcolm Chisholm give way?
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
The member is in his last minute.
Malcolm Chisholm Lab
If Cara Hilton’s amendment had dealt with a new issue, we would not be able to complain. However, it dealt with an issue on which she had lodged an amendment...
John Wilson (Central Scotland) (SNP) Ind
I want to take this opportunity to welcome the discussion and debate on what are clearly important issues for Scotland. The health and security of everyone i...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
We will now have closing speeches. 16:51
Cameron Buchanan (Lothian) (Con) Con
The Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill has drawn out areas of both consensus and contention, as today’s debate has shown. As I have commented before, ...
Kevin Stewart SNP
Will the member give way?
Cameron Buchanan Con
Certainly.
Kevin Stewart SNP
I thank Mr Buchanan for giving way. We recognise that there is a small minority of abusers of air weapons. However, the use of those weapons by abusers has l...
Cameron Buchanan Con
What evidence do we have that a licensing regime will prevent deaths? I cannot see it. I do not think it will make any difference; I think that those people ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
Mr Buchanan, carry on.
Cameron Buchanan Con
The misuse of air weapons is confined to a tiny minority of users, as recently published statistics on recorded crimes in Scotland involving firearms for 201...
Colin Keir (Edinburgh Western) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?