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Meeting of the Parliament 23 June 2015

23 Jun 2015 · S4 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Prisoners (Control of Release) (Scotland) Bill
Baxter, Jayne Lab Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

The core principle behind the bill is recognised across the chamber: automatic early release of prisoners does not engender confidence in our criminal justice system among the general public and must be reformed. However, that does not mean that the legislation and the Scottish Government’s overall approach to sentencing are appropriate or adequate.

It is important to note again that the Scottish Government attempted to squeeze the content of this important bill into a previous bill, but we should be grateful that it listened to the recommendation of the Justice Committee to place it in free-standing legislation.

Scottish Labour is in complete agreement with victim support groups that there needs to be clarity in sentencing. Victims, the community and offenders need to understand what the sentence that is passed by the judge or sheriff means in practice. It is not good enough that victims of crime and their families hear that someone is sentenced to X years in prison but have no idea what that means in reality. Victims and their families should be at the centre of the criminal justice system, but the current system of sentencing fails to put them there.

The bill might increase confusion about sentencing, however. As Victim Support Scotland noted in its submission,

“ending automatic early release for only some categories of prisoners would work to further complicate an already confusing system; the proposals would in fact create another rule that needs to be taken into account when calculating the release date of an offender”.

The amendment that was lodged by my colleague Elaine Murray is significant. It recognises that starting the new process with six months to go before the end of a prisoner’s sentence is a blunt instrument. Instead, as she has proposed, making it proportional is a much more reasonable approach. The amendment would have ensured that there was no uniform approach to offenders. It seems to be bizarre that an offender who is sentenced to four years’ imprisonment would be expected to be placed under supervision for the same length of time as an extremely violent or repeat offender, but that is what the bill proposes.

Scottish Labour’s amendment would have given the courts the power to set the period of supervision, rather than treating every offender the same way. A more nuanced approach would help to ensure that offenders were given a less generic rehabilitation programme, thus minimising the risk of recidivism. It would also allow a more joined-up and flexible approach to individual offenders to be introduced.

The provision in section 2 of the bill to allow prisoners who are due to be released on Fridays to be released two days earlier in order to increase the provision of support for them is a good one. It may appear to some people to be a relatively minor change, but according to the Scottish Prison Service around 4,000 prisoners are released every year on Fridays. They emerge into our communities with limited support and go straight into the weekend, a period in which many people run an increased risk of breaking the law. We currently do not do enough to help offenders back into the community once they have served their time, so that modest proposal will at least make some provision to increase the support and guidance that they receive.

However, we must look more closely at the proposals. At the heart of any structure surrounding the release of prisoners must be the calculation of risk to public safety. That is, of course, notoriously difficult to calculate, and it would be wholly unreasonable of us to expect the relevant authorities to successfully calculate the risk of reoffending every time they are called on to do so.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (John Scott) Con
The next item of business is a debate on motion S4M-13597, in the name of Michael Matheson, on the Prisoners (Control of Release) (Scotland) Bill. 15:22
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice (Michael Matheson) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to open the stage 3 debate on the Prisoners (Control of Release) (Scotland) Bill. First, I offer my thanks to the Justice Committee...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Con
I call Dr Elaine Murray. You have seven minutes. As we are now quite tight for time, please make it a pretty exact seven minutes. 15:32
Elaine Murray (Dumfriesshire) (Lab) Lab
The term “ending automatic early release” has been used so often over the years that its meaning has not been questioned. That was the case until the Justice...
Christian Allard (North East Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Elaine Murray Lab
No, sorry. I do not really have much time. In the ministerial statement prior to this debate, Fergus Ewing reminded us that irrational decisions can result ...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
Will the member give way?
Elaine Murray Lab
I am sorry, but I do not have much time. The Government has not been able to provide evidence that a six-month supervisory sentence for all long-term prison...
Margaret Mitchell (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I pay tribute to the Justice Committee clerks for their hard work and to the witnesses who provided such vital and insightful evidence at stage 1 and stage 2...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member give way?
Margaret Mitchell Con
If Mr Allard does not mind, I will make progress. We are now in a situation in which the legitimate concerns and criticisms of stakeholders, which range fro...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Margaret Mitchell Con
No. If the member does not mind, I have some progress to make. That in turn has proportionality implications that may lead to potential human rights challen...
Roderick Campbell (North East Fife) (SNP) SNP
We must acknowledge that the bill has moved since stage 1 and that it operates in the context of the 2007 and 2010 legislation in the area, as yet to be impl...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Elaine Smith) Lab
I have a little bit of time in hand at this stage. 15:48
Graeme Pearson (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to speak in this afternoon’s debate. However, I am disappointed because introducing the legislation in this way is a missed opportunity. Rod Ca...
Christian Allard SNP
It is important to understand what the academics told the committee. They said that cold release is the problem. A vast amount of cold release is happening. ...
Graeme Pearson Lab
I am grateful for that intervention. I accept that the days of cold release should be history. Unfortunately, they will not be. Over the past few months, I h...
Alison McInnes (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
It is important to remember that automatic early release is a management device. It was introduced as a safety valve to ease the pressure caused by escalatin...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Ind) Ind
The policy memorandum talks about helping to reduce offending and improve public safety, and it is important that we have an evidence base for that. People h...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
Much has already been said about this short bill, so I will try not to repeat too much. I think that we all agree that ending automatic early release is, in ...
Jayne Baxter (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
The core principle behind the bill is recognised across the chamber: automatic early release of prisoners does not engender confidence in our criminal justic...
John Finnie Ind
Will Jayne Baxter give way?
Jayne Baxter Lab
No. We must ensure that each offender’s risk profile is central to the debate about whether they are released early. For those who have committed serious of...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We come to the closing speeches. I call Margaret Mitchell. 16:10
Margaret Mitchell Con
Oh, it is me. I thought I heard “followed by”. If the decision to pass the bill is taken at 4.30 pm, the Parliament will be able to take absolutely no pride...
Hugh Henry (Renfrewshire South) (Lab) Lab
I cannot find any fault in the idea that we should end automatic early release. Victims, and indeed the general public, deserve some clarity from our legal s...
Christian Allard SNP
Will the member give way?
Hugh Henry Lab
No, thank you. Roderick Campbell criticised Elaine Murray, saying that there was no evidence for her amendment. That was echoed by Christine Grahame, who sa...
Michael Matheson SNP
I have listened with interest to the issues and points raised, although some of them were echoes of concerns that were raised at stage 1 of the bill. I said ...